I totally am talking dry, brittle cracking. I know the person is talking popping off, I am just defending the stance that you don't have to wear gloves or use oil and your nails will be fine. After care of nails is a must in my opinion in order to have people successfully wear them.
R On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Diana Bonn <[email protected]> wrote: > > But Rhonda, you are talking brittle, and dry, and cracking. This gal is > talking popping off? ahhhhhhh good thread!!! diana from indiana > > > Quoting Rhonda Kibuk <[email protected]>: > > > Diana and Pati, I would never YELL at you guys, I love and respect you > both > > entirely too much. I will, however, back up my home care theory with a > few > > first hand, personal experiences. > > > > First client, lets call her Denise, she works in a bank, she is concerned > > about how dirty the money is. She uses an alcohol-based hand sanitizer > > after EVERY customer. She would come in and her acrylics were not only > > lifting, but they were brittle. I finally got her to agree to start > using > > cuticle oil throughout the day, we did a new set and here we are over > five > > years later, no problems, no more lifting. > > > > Next client, we'll call her Tara, she owns a flower shop and is obsess > with > > the work area being clean. She scrubs her entire work area with bleach > > water and Comet each and every day. When she would come in for her > > appointment, she would literally reek of bleach. Her nails would be > yellow > > and so brittle that they would totally crumble off, they were the > grossest > > thing I've ever seen. I agreed to do a new set only if she used oil and > > wore gloves. Again, never a problem from that point one. > > > > Third and final case that I can tink of, lets call her Sara, a bar > tender. > > She was using that wonderful stuff that bars use to sanitize their > glasses > > with ONE hand only. That hand was totally lifting and brittle, surpise > > here, this was NOT her dominate hand, so it was totally the chemical. > > Again, I had her agree to wear a glove on that hand and use cuticle oil > and > > problems stop. > > > > I think the reason that WE as nail techs can get away with it is because > we > > don't compound the problem by picking. Clients will pick and help it. > > > > I am sure you all have seen product that is brittle and crumbly from > > cleaning supplies. I can tell in one look if someone used a harsh > chemical > > without gloves. > > > > Now, I get very new people, my book is pretty much filled with standings > and > > open spots are filled with glitter toes so it's been awhile since I've > had a > > new client, but my clients all know that they are required to take care > of > > their nails at home. For the few who weren't believers, I proved my > point > > to them as I did with the few listed above. > > > > So, I would like to say that I totally respect your opinion, but I have > to > > respectfully disagree. > > > > HUGS! > > > > Rhonda > > > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:26 AM, <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > I called her yesterday and I asked her how they were coming off. She > said > > > she went to open her cabinet and it just popped off. Well I love when > they > > > say that cause I know the whole nail didn't come off like that > especially > > > gel. I started to think back and yes she has been a client of mine for > a > > > year now. I use to use acrylic on her and she may of had one or two off > but > > > for the most part no prob. I think she may be used to that stronger > feel of > > > acrylic. Yes she used to go to the nss salon and had trenches drilled > in > > her > > > nais. I'll. Find more out tues when I do her nails but for now I don't > > > know. Sorry pati I may have sent you something twice last night I don't > > know > > > where my messg went > > > Brenda > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Diana Bonn <[email protected]> > > > Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:48:40 > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Subject: NailTech:: Re: NailTech::I agree Pati/ Re: Vent > > > > > > > > > Yep I agree Pati, and also will YELL out like Pati said, Please be > Gentle. > > > > > > Whenever I read something like, they canned tomotoes, or cleaned with > > > bleach, or washed the car with strong soap, and the nails came off, I > > > just don't get it. Even the comment that I have heard for years, the > > > reason nails come off is because they don't use cuticle oil! I have > > > never had this problem either, clients never use the oil. And the > > > few that do, I see the advantage of the cuticle being softer, not to > > > prevent lifting!!! And like Pati, my clients hardly ever wear gloves. > > > > > > The only chemical I have ever seen ruin nails is paint remover or > > > stain remover type products. Now have I had clients ruin their nails > > > by doing something at home like cleaning? OF COURSE. But it was from > > > banging them and using their nails as tools. > > > > > > I think some cannot wear ac and some cannot wear gel, just doesn't > > > matter. I actually have a couple with gel on a couple of their > > > nails, ac just doesn't work on them, weird. > > > > > > So I have to say, I think Pati thinks the same, we respect you guys, > > > and believe you all, but we have been scratching our heads for YEARS, > > > and don't get it. Just Our opinion!!!!!!!!! thanks Pati for speaking > > > up. Behind you 100%!!!!!!!!!!! diana from indiana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 09:10 PM 10/27/2009, you wrote: > > > >I HAVE to say something here...please be gentle with me you guys! > > > > ok right now my nails are a mess cause of the chemo, but for YEARS > > > > and YEARS I wore acrylic (and before that... wraps) and have never > > > > been a glove wearer. OK I did have a housekeeper for many of those > > > > years but...I DO preserve tomatoes and have raised 3 > > > > kids....cooking, daily cleaning, bathing them etc. I even had 2 > > > > dogs...my nails didn't come off unless I picked them or bit them > > > > off. That was either when I did them or others did them.... > > > > so....gloves may keep them nicer but I don't think they play THAT > > > > big of a part in nails staying on. I had a large clientele ...both > > > > in Florida and NY and barely any of them used gloves on a daily > > > > basis....and they, save 1 or 2, never had problems! > > > >(The "preserving the tomatoes" part really got me! We do like 250 > > > >jars every year! The food processor does the work...we don't squish > > > >them by hand! ) JMHO...please be gentle.... > > > > > > > >[] > > > > Pati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
