But Rhonda, you are talking  brittle, and dry, and cracking.  This gal is
talking popping off?  ahhhhhhh good thread!!! diana from indiana


Quoting Rhonda Kibuk <[email protected]>:

> Diana and Pati, I would never YELL at you guys, I love and respect you both
> entirely too much.  I will, however, back up my home care theory with a few
> first hand, personal experiences.
>
> First client, lets call her Denise, she works in a bank, she is concerned
> about how dirty the money is.  She uses an alcohol-based hand sanitizer
> after EVERY customer.  She would come in and her acrylics were not only
> lifting, but they were brittle.  I finally got her to agree to start using
> cuticle oil throughout the day, we did a new set and here we are over five
> years later, no problems, no more lifting.
>
> Next client, we'll call her Tara, she owns a flower shop and is obsess with
> the work area being clean.  She scrubs her entire work area with bleach
> water and Comet each and every day.  When she would come in for her
> appointment, she would literally reek of bleach.  Her nails would be yellow
> and so brittle that they would totally crumble off, they were the grossest
> thing I've ever seen.  I agreed to do a new set only if she used oil and
> wore gloves.  Again, never a problem from that point one.
>
> Third and final case that I can tink of, lets call her Sara, a bar tender.
> She was using that wonderful stuff that bars use to sanitize their glasses
> with ONE hand only.  That hand was totally lifting and brittle, surpise
> here, this was NOT her dominate hand, so it was totally the chemical.
> Again, I had her agree to wear a glove on that hand and use cuticle oil and
> problems stop.
>
> I think the reason that WE as nail techs can get away with it is because we
> don't compound the problem by picking.  Clients will pick and help it.
>
> I am sure you all have seen product that is brittle and crumbly from
> cleaning supplies.  I can tell in one look if someone used a harsh chemical
> without gloves.
>
> Now, I get very new people, my book is pretty much filled with standings and
> open spots are filled with glitter toes so it's been awhile since I've had a
> new client, but my clients all know that they are required to take care of
> their nails at home.  For the few who weren't believers, I proved my point
> to them as I did with the few listed above.
>
> So, I would like to say that I totally respect your opinion, but I have to
> respectfully disagree.
>
> HUGS!
>
> Rhonda
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:26 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I called her yesterday and I asked her how they were coming off. She said
> > she went to open her cabinet and it just popped off. Well I love when they
> > say that cause I know the whole nail didn't come off like that especially
> > gel. I started to think back and yes she has been a client of mine for a
> > year now. I use to use acrylic on her and she may of had one or two off but
> > for the most part no prob. I think she may be used to that stronger feel of
> > acrylic. Yes she used to go to the nss salon and had trenches drilled in
> her
> > nais.  I'll. Find more out tues when I do her nails but for now I don't
> > know. Sorry pati I may have sent you something twice last night I don't
> know
> > where my messg went
> > Brenda
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Diana Bonn <[email protected]>
> > Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:48:40
> > To: <[email protected]>
> >  Subject: NailTech:: Re: NailTech::I agree Pati/ Re: Vent
> >
> >
> > Yep I agree Pati, and also will YELL out like Pati said, Please be Gentle.
> >
> > Whenever I read something like, they canned tomotoes, or cleaned with
> > bleach, or washed the car with strong soap, and the nails came off, I
> > just don't get it. Even the comment that I have heard for years, the
> > reason nails come off is because they don't use cuticle oil!  I have
> > never had this problem either, clients never use the oil.  And the
> > few that do, I see the advantage of the cuticle being softer, not to
> > prevent lifting!!! And like Pati, my clients hardly ever wear gloves.
> >
> > The only chemical I have ever seen ruin nails is paint remover or
> > stain remover type products.  Now have I had clients ruin their nails
> > by doing something at home like cleaning? OF COURSE.  But it was from
> > banging them and using their nails as tools.
> >
> > I think some cannot wear ac and some cannot wear gel, just doesn't
> > matter.  I actually have a couple with gel on a couple of their
> > nails, ac just doesn't work on them, weird.
> >
> > So I have to say, I think Pati thinks the same, we respect you guys,
> > and believe you all, but we have been scratching our heads for YEARS,
> > and don't get it.  Just Our opinion!!!!!!!!! thanks Pati for speaking
> > up.  Behind you 100%!!!!!!!!!!! diana from indiana
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 09:10 PM 10/27/2009, you wrote:
> > >I HAVE to say something here...please be gentle with me you guys!
> > >  ok right now my nails are a mess cause of the chemo, but for YEARS
> > > and YEARS I wore acrylic (and before that... wraps) and have never
> > > been a glove wearer.  OK I did have a housekeeper for many of those
> > > years but...I DO preserve tomatoes and have raised 3
> > > kids....cooking, daily cleaning, bathing them etc. I even had 2
> > > dogs...my nails didn't come off unless I picked them or bit them
> > > off.  That was either when I did them or others did them....
> > > so....gloves may keep them nicer but I don't think they play THAT
> > > big of a part in nails staying on. I had a large clientele ...both
> > > in Florida and NY and barely any of them used gloves on a daily
> > > basis....and they, save 1 or 2, never had problems!
> > >(The "preserving the tomatoes" part really got me! We do like 250
> > >jars every year! The food processor does the work...we don't squish
> > >them by hand! ) JMHO...please be gentle....
> > >
> > >[]
> > >  Pati
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
> >
>



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