I have to bring up Anna's point of the decades long use of nail polish and nail 
problems.

I have been a nail tech some 30+ years.  Before that , I manicured my mom and 
aunt's and sisters nails all of the time with NO problem with the polish 
separating the nail from the bed.

Manicurists 25 years and farther back didn't have the education available to 
them that we have now and clients didn't have all of the nail disorders that 
they have now.  I will not go into a subject that will start another thread at 
this time  so , just polish.

With formaldehyde and toluene etc being removed polish doesn't
t stay on the way it used to and everyone wants the polish to dry in 1/2 
minute.  Polish won't last,    

Now, the Dr thing.  Dr's hate nail techs.  I don't mean this in a literal sence 
so please don't chop my head.   Just think about this.........the dr will tell 
almost every client I know to stop getting their nails done.  They don't think 
beyond just what they see at the moment.  I question my clients when or if they 
have a problem.  The Dr will just look and form an opinion.  

I didn't offer an answer, I just wanted to put in my 2 cents.

Maureen Solan

 

--- On Mon, 12/12/11, Maggie in Visalia <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Maggie in Visalia <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: NailTech:: huh..polish causes nail separation!
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, December 12, 2011, 10:58 PM

I think Anna has hit on the points I was planning on addressing: It seems to me 
that nail polish in its current form has been around for several decades and 
mulitple generations. If it was a proven fact that wearing nail polish 
consistantly led to onycholisis, I think more people would be aware of it by  
now. 
 
I fear that you have a podiatrist who is either biased against nail polish for 
whatever reason, or is woefully misinformed about polish. 
 
First, I would contact the podiatrist and have a serious professional to 
professional discussion with her. But I think you may want to consider finding 
a different doctor to set up a referral business with. 
 

 
Maggie Franklin: 
Owner & Artist, The Art of Nailz, Visalia CA
 "Visionary rebel dreamer; obviously way ahead of my time."
Maggie Rants [and Raves]@Nails Magazine 
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From: Anna Z-James <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: NailTech:: huh..polish causes nail separation!



Not exactly sure that using polish could cause any type of damage to that 
degree?  After centuries of using polish oddly enough most of the problems have 
surfaced in the last 20 years or so.  Most of the problems started because of 
lack of education in cleanliness and sanitation.  I agree with Katherine unless 
the person is allergic I can't see where polish could cause such horrific 
separation. 


Before you start to recommend your clients to this doctor I'd make sure you all 
have an agreed arrangement of information that is passed on to your clients.  
Mainly due in part by the fact that most people will take the information of a 
doctor over yours, there causing the loss of a client to that doctor and the 
services and information that is offered to them. 

Best of Luck with that situation. 


Anna
Creations by Anna Z-James 
www.annazjames.com
702-927-8831





-----Original Message-----
From: Katherine Fahrig <[email protected]>
To: nailtech <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Dec 9, 2011 9:21 am
Subject: Re: NailTech:: huh..polish causes nail separation!


My guess would be that she is talking about the 3 free polishes being the " 
healthy " polish. I have not heard of nail polish of any kind causing nail 
plate 
separation unless it is an allergic reaction. If you want a referral 
relationship with this podiatrist perhaps you can get some info printed out 
from 
the Internet and educate her. Show her what you do and products that you use 
and 
ask her what she tells her clients. Have industry printouts to back up your 
products and procedures. 

You know what? I think that is a good idea, I am going to do the same. I'll 
post 
what info I print out and where I find it. Anyone else have a "healthy pedicure 
hand book" that they have put together? Does beautytech.com have one? I will 
look.

Katherine
St. Louis, MO
Sent from my iPad

On Dec 9, 2011, at 10:24 AM, holly cliffe <[email protected]> wrote:

> I recently referred a client to a podiatrist.  I am hoping that in the New 
Year I will start working with this podiatrist on a sort of internship and then 
establish a referral system with her.  I referred my client because her toe 
nails are separating from the nail bed, and taking on a new shape.....and it's 
really bothering her.  Several years ago she went through a round of aggressive 
chemo and that's when I first started noticing a difference in the nail.  I 
believe the problem is connected to that, I don't think there is any fungus 
growing under there.
> 
> The podiatrist is testing for fungus, but she advised my client that if she 
> is 
wearing "nail polish" all the time that this could have caused the problem, and 
mentioned that she has seen this many times before.  Her recommendation was to 
either stop wearing polish or go to the health food store and get some 
"healthy" 
polish.  I believe she is talking about polishes with formaldehyde, toluene and 
DBP.  So, I hadnt heard that these chemicals caused nail plate separation but 
that's interesting to know. The doc said that the chemicals penetrate the nail 
plate and seep into the soft tissue of the nail bed, cause this separation and 
also get into the blood stream.
> 
> I've used OPI, CND polishes for many years (and I believe they've been 3 free 
for many years).  These days I seldom use polish.....most toes I do are Shellac 
or gel/glitter and I believe that is also "3 free"
> 
> Anyone know anything about this?
> 
> Holly Cliffe
> Holly Cliffe Nail Design
> 
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