it takes time Lynnette.. and you have to (for me anyway) let the the
nail grow out past the end of the toe and leave it straight across..
it took maybe 8-10 months for a real improvement to show, relief was
about 3-4 months
At 12:57 PM 12/13/2011, you wrote:
I am glad to hear that the acrylic is working for you, Deb. Wish it
would do the same for my clients' nails. She says it hurts.
Buenos dias,
Lynnette
On Dec 13, 2011 11:59 AM, "Debbie Doerrlamm"
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
oh I should have said.. improvement after having acrylic on my toes
for several month to help flatten them out..
(blaming the new Mr. Jackson on the distraction!)
Deb
At 11:22 AM 12/13/2011, you wrote:
Maureen,
Not all Dr's :) My podiatrist saw the improvement in my pincher
toes and says he will be recommending it to patients in the future
:) Some are forward thinking, some stuck in a hole, some want to sell stuff..
Debbie D
At 08:38 AM 12/13/2011, you wrote:
I have to bring up Anna's point of the decades long use of nail
polish and nail problems.
I have been a nail tech some 30+ years. Before that , I manicured
my mom and aunt's and sisters nails all of the time with NO
problem with the polish separating the nail from the bed.
Manicurists 25 years and farther back didn't have the education
available to them that we have now and clients didn't have all of
the nail disorders that they have now. I will not go into a
subject that will start another thread at this time so , just polish.
With formaldehyde and toluene etc being removed polish doesn't
t stay on the way it used to and everyone wants the polish to dry
in 1/2 minute. Polish won't last,
Now, the Dr thing. Dr's hate nail techs. I don't mean this in a
literal sence so please don't chop my head. Just think about
this.........the dr will tell almost every client I know to stop
getting their nails done. They don't think beyond just what they
see at the moment. I question my clients when or if they have a
problem. The Dr will just look and form an opinion.
I didn't offer an answer, I just wanted to put in my 2 cents.
Maureen Solan
--- On Mon, 12/12/11, Maggie in Visalia
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
From: Maggie in Visalia <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>
Subject: Re: NailTech:: huh..polish causes nail separation!
To: "<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]"
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>
Date: Monday, December 12, 2011, 10:58 PM
I think Anna has hit on the points I was planning on addressing:
It seems to me that nail polish in its current form has been
around for several decades and mulitple generations. If it was a
proven fact that wearing nail polish consistantly led to
onycholisis, I think more people would be aware of it by now.
I fear that you have a podiatrist who is either biased against
nail polish for whatever reason, or is woefully misinformed about polish.
First, I would contact the podiatrist and have a serious
professional to professional discussion with her. But I think you
may want to consider finding a different doctor to set up a
referral business with.
Maggie Franklin:
Owner & Artist, <http://artofnailz.info/>The Art of Nailz, Visalia CA
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From: Anna Z-James <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: NailTech:: huh..polish causes nail separation!
Not exactly sure that using polish could cause any type of damage to
that degree? After centuries of using polish oddly enough most of
the problems have surfaced in the last 20 years or so. Most of the
problems started because of lack of education in cleanliness and
sanitation. I agree with Katherine unless the person is allergic I
can't see where polish could cause such horrific separation.
Before you start to recommend your clients to this doctor I'd make
sure you all have an agreed arrangement of information that is
passed on to your clients. Mainly due in part by the fact that most
people will take the information of a doctor over yours, there
causing the loss of a client to that doctor and the services and
information that is offered to them.
Best of Luck with that situation.
Anna
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-----Original Message-----
From: Katherine Fahrig
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>
To: nailtech <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Dec 9, 2011 9:21 am
Subject: Re: NailTech:: huh..polish causes nail separation!
My guess would be that she is talking about the 3 free polishes being the "
healthy " polish. I have not heard of nail polish of any kind
causing nail plate
separation unless it is an allergic reaction. If you want a referral
relationship with this podiatrist perhaps you can get some info
printed out from
the Internet and educate her. Show her what you do and products that
you use and
ask her what she tells her clients. Have industry printouts to back up your
products and procedures.
You know what? I think that is a good idea, I am going to do the
same. I'll post
what info I print out and where I find it. Anyone else have a
"healthy pedicure
hand book" that they have put together? Does
<http://beautytech.com/>beautytech.com have one? I will
look.
Katherine
St. Louis, MO
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On Dec 9, 2011, at 10:24 AM, holly cliffe
<<http://mc/[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote:
> I recently referred a client to a podiatrist. I am hoping that in the New
Year I will start working with this podiatrist on a sort of
internship and then
establish a referral system with her. I referred my client because her toe
nails are separating from the nail bed, and taking on a new
shape.....and it's
really bothering her. Several years ago she went through a round of
aggressive
chemo and that's when I first started noticing a difference in the nail. I
believe the problem is connected to that, I don't think there is any fungus
growing under there.
>
> The podiatrist is testing for fungus, but she advised my client
that if she is
wearing "nail polish" all the time that this could have caused the
problem, and
mentioned that she has seen this many times before. Her
recommendation was to
either stop wearing polish or go to the health food store and get
some "healthy"
polish. I believe she is talking about polishes with formaldehyde,
toluene and
DBP. So, I hadnt heard that these chemicals caused nail plate separation but
that's interesting to know. The doc said that the chemicals
penetrate the nail
plate and seep into the soft tissue of the nail bed, cause this
separation and
also get into the blood stream.
>
> I've used OPI, CND polishes for many years (and I believe they've
been 3 free
for many years). These days I seldom use polish.....most toes I do
are Shellac
or gel/glitter and I believe that is also "3 free"
>
> Anyone know anything about this?
>
> Holly Cliffe
> Holly Cliffe Nail Design
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