I’ll just let the incivility of you both stand.

-mel

On Aug 2, 2025, at 3:52 PM, Tom Beecher <beec...@beecher.cc> wrote:


Mel-

Saku did not call *you* any names. He called your *incorrect statements* in 
this thread 'bizzard drivel'. Which he is absolutely correct about. While your 
intentions may certainly have been to help, your statements here have been 
frankly dead wrong and did not accomplish that.

Probably just want to take the L here.


On Sat, Aug 2, 2025 at 5:34 PM Mel Beckman via NANOG 
<nanog@lists.nanog.org<mailto:nanog@lists.nanog.org>> wrote:
Saku,

What is actually appalling is that a member of NANOG calls “bizarre drivel” the 
honest and sincere attempts by other members to help identify the possible 
problem. There’s no cause to be uncivil, people can disagree without stooping 
to name-calling.

 -mel

> On Aug 2, 2025, at 11:46 AM, Saku Ytti via NANOG 
> <nanog@lists.nanog.org<mailto:nanog@lists.nanog.org>> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 at 21:02, Tom Beecher via NANOG
> <nanog@lists.nanog.org<mailto:nanog@lists.nanog.org>> wrote:
>
>> I don't have in depth knowledge of Cisco's SNMP implementations, or even
>> the ASR platform specifically, but if Cisco TAC is telling you this is
>> 'normal', they are completely full of shit, and you should click any and
>> every 'escalate' button you can find.
>>
>> This almost sounds like a default control plane DDOS policer / LPTS ,
>> something like that.
>
> There are various complicated reasons for this, LPTS policer is
> unlikely culprit, but possible. Bug search will show various DDTS with
> poor SNMP performance outcome, most of them are unrelated to LPTS.
>
> But absolutely correct, the right solution is to escalate. In common
> case this would be SE from your account team, who would fight for you
> internally.
>
>
> It is appalling that OP came to nanog after correctly suspecting TAC
> is gaslighting them, some community member piled on with what can only
> be described as a bizarre drivel.
> --
>  ++ytti
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