Thanks. I knew we were not so out to lunch! If you don’t push back on bullies, they take over the community. It crops up on nanog periodically. :(
-mel via cell > On Aug 4, 2025, at 5:54 AM, Joe Loiacono via NANOG <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Mel, for what it's worth, I could not figure out what they were referring > to by Saku's comments. I saw no justification for their complaint. A bit out > of character for Saku, also, > > Joe > >> On 8/2/2025 7:23 PM, Mel Beckman via NANOG wrote: >> I’ll just let the incivility of you both stand. >> >> -mel >> >> On Aug 2, 2025, at 3:52 PM, Tom Beecher <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Mel- >> >> Saku did not call *you* any names. He called your *incorrect statements* in >> this thread 'bizzard drivel'. Which he is absolutely correct about. While >> your intentions may certainly have been to help, your statements here have >> been frankly dead wrong and did not accomplish that. >> >> Probably just want to take the L here. >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2025 at 5:34 PM Mel Beckman via NANOG >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Saku, >> >> What is actually appalling is that a member of NANOG calls “bizarre drivel” >> the honest and sincere attempts by other members to help identify the >> possible problem. There’s no cause to be uncivil, people can disagree >> without stooping to name-calling. >> >> -mel >> >>>> On Aug 2, 2025, at 11:46 AM, Saku Ytti via NANOG >>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 at 21:02, Tom Beecher via NANOG >>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't have in depth knowledge of Cisco's SNMP implementations, or even >>>> the ASR platform specifically, but if Cisco TAC is telling you this is >>>> 'normal', they are completely full of shit, and you should click any and >>>> every 'escalate' button you can find. >>>> >>>> This almost sounds like a default control plane DDOS policer / LPTS , >>>> something like that. >>> There are various complicated reasons for this, LPTS policer is >>> unlikely culprit, but possible. Bug search will show various DDTS with >>> poor SNMP performance outcome, most of them are unrelated to LPTS. >>> >>> But absolutely correct, the right solution is to escalate. In common >>> case this would be SE from your account team, who would fight for you >>> internally. >>> >>> >>> It is appalling that OP came to nanog after correctly suspecting TAC >>> is gaslighting them, some community member piled on with what can only >>> be described as a bizarre drivel. >>> -- >>> ++ytti >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NANOG mailing list >>> https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/7KXUNRGFI5OEVSDEDU2OL5VMY5NBGQCV/ >> _______________________________________________ >> NANOG mailing list >> https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/CF3QHVTISL6LDFTOWG4E3KK54QEDHUIY/ >> _______________________________________________ >> NANOG mailing list >> https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/OJ7ICXLSPFND32X2XS2U7XIWA6DALSIF/ > _______________________________________________ > NANOG mailing list > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/E4CF2TFV35VSJVFEZZANEWOAJFUUNDL4/ _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/RU6WF77QOECXABP6IDCMVNLAH67X4WNW/
