Hi Mel, for what it's worth, I could not figure out what they were
referring to by Saku's comments. I saw no justification for their
complaint. A bit out of character for Saku, also,
Joe
On 8/2/2025 7:23 PM, Mel Beckman via NANOG wrote:
I’ll just let the incivility of you both stand.
-mel
On Aug 2, 2025, at 3:52 PM, Tom Beecher <[email protected]> wrote:
Mel-
Saku did not call *you* any names. He called your *incorrect statements* in
this thread 'bizzard drivel'. Which he is absolutely correct about. While your
intentions may certainly have been to help, your statements here have been
frankly dead wrong and did not accomplish that.
Probably just want to take the L here.
On Sat, Aug 2, 2025 at 5:34 PM Mel Beckman via NANOG
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Saku,
What is actually appalling is that a member of NANOG calls “bizarre drivel” the
honest and sincere attempts by other members to help identify the possible
problem. There’s no cause to be uncivil, people can disagree without stooping
to name-calling.
-mel
On Aug 2, 2025, at 11:46 AM, Saku Ytti via NANOG
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 at 21:02, Tom Beecher via NANOG
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I don't have in depth knowledge of Cisco's SNMP implementations, or even
the ASR platform specifically, but if Cisco TAC is telling you this is
'normal', they are completely full of shit, and you should click any and
every 'escalate' button you can find.
This almost sounds like a default control plane DDOS policer / LPTS ,
something like that.
There are various complicated reasons for this, LPTS policer is
unlikely culprit, but possible. Bug search will show various DDTS with
poor SNMP performance outcome, most of them are unrelated to LPTS.
But absolutely correct, the right solution is to escalate. In common
case this would be SE from your account team, who would fight for you
internally.
It is appalling that OP came to nanog after correctly suspecting TAC
is gaslighting them, some community member piled on with what can only
be described as a bizarre drivel.
--
++ytti
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