> On Aug 23, 2025, at 17:25, Tom Beecher via NANOG <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm curious why it takes a week to adjust one IP block.
> 
> 
> Content Provider pays the Geolocation Provider for access to their
> database. If the Content Provider is fine with the Geolocation Provider
> only updating their database weekly, then that's what they will do.  The
> Geo Provider has no incentive to do updates quicker than the people paying
> them require them.  By extension, the Content Provider only cares if enough
> users are impacted by the problem that they NEED to care.
> 
> The entire geo-ip ecosystem is hot garbage.

This… 100%!! Hot piece of shit!

-Mike




> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 6:42 PM Josh Luthman via NANOG <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for closing the loop.
>> 
>> I'm curious why it takes a week to adjust one IP block.  It's frustrating
>> as a provider to have no ability to fix it and get all of the angry phone
>> calls.
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2025, 6:14 PM Mike Lyon via NANOG <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> If any eyeball networks are having geo-ip issues that started a week or
>> so
>>> ago for their customers trying to use HBO, Hulu, Netflix or any others
>> that
>>> use Digital Elements for their geo-ip, be sure you make Digital Elements
>>> aware.
>>> 
>>> Digital Elements ran a process update last week that screwed up a bunch
>> of
>>> netblocks. See ticket verbatim below.
>>> 
>>> And to top it off, they are holding my customers hostage until a week
>> from
>>> today when they run the corrective update.
>>> 
>>> Hi Mike,
>>> 
>>> While refining our processes to improve accuracy, some of our changes
>>> inadvertently over-corrected existing updates we had in place.  We have
>>> noticed these and are correcting them currently.  This unfortunately was
>>> one of the overridden updates.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> Mike Lyon
>>> Aug 22, 2025, 11:00 AM EDT
>>> 
>>> Do we know why it changed?
>>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2025, at 05:03, Data Management <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> *redacted* (Digital Element)
>>> Aug 22, 2025, 8:03 AM EDT
>>> 
>>> Hi Mike,
>>> 
>>> We apologize for the inconvenience.  We will update this IP range back to
>>> the US for our release next Friday, August 29.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> ————————
>>> 
>>> Fun times…
>>> -Mike
>>> 
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