Small correction inline: > On Nov 22, 2023, at 11:16, o...@delong.com <o...@delong.com> wrote: > > It’s recently come to my attention that I must stand partially corrected in > what I said below. > > Apparently, Tata is rejecting routes that have neither RPKI nor an RIR-based > IRR record created after 1993.
The actual date is 2023-08-15. https://lg.as6453.net/doc/cust-routing-policy.html > > This means that virtually all legacy holders who change IRRs or make any of a > number of other possible updates to their IRR data will be unreachable to > single-homed Tata customers (and unable to reach them). > > This unfortunate choice by Tata is likely to become a trend in the future, > but I figured it would be several more years before that happened. In fact, I > was hoping it wouldn’t really take shape in a meaningful way until IPv4 lost > its relevance. > > Unfortunately, Tata has decided to take the lead in disconnecting legacy > prefix holders and pushing the RIR contract agenda. > > Owen > > >> On Nov 20, 2023, at 12:25, owen--- via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote: >> >> The only advantage is not being subject to an RIR contract and not paying >> annual fees. Especially with the fee structure games ARIN has been playing >> over the last decade or so. >> >> I made the mistake of bringing my legacy resources under ARIN LRSA contract >> once upon a time. I ended up transferring them to RIPE Non-Contract in order >> to get out from under that arrangement. >> >> While you can’t get RPKI without paying annual fees, you can get IRR >> services, just not from ARIN. >> >> You can use altdb as an IRR for free with legacy space without any issues at >> all. >> >> It’s unlikely that lack of RPKI will be a significant drawback for the >> foreseeable future. >> >> Worst case, if need arises, transfer your space to RIPE and make >> arrangements with a RIPE LIR to “sponsor” your prefixes. This is usually >> around 70+EU per year to the sponsoring LIR. Prices vary greatly, so be >> prepared to negotiate. >> >> Owen >> >> >>> On Nov 20, 2023, at 10:59, Eric Dugas via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote: >>> >>> Greetings! >>> >>> Let's say you inherit legacy assets (ASN & IPv4 netblock), what are the >>> first advantages that come to mind (beside not having to pay annual fees). >>> >>> Any disadvantages? The ones I can think of is the lack of RIR routing >>> security services (in the ARIN region at least). No IRR, no RPKI at all. >>> >>> Eric >> >
