On Oct 28, 2010, at 17:45, Roger Marquis wrote:
> james woodyatt wrote:
>> 
>> I don't understand how this answers my question, because I don't know
>> what's wrong with applications expecting to know A) what addresses the
>> network presents to their peers for them, or B) what addresses the network
>> presents to their peers for all their other peers.
> 
> Your mal-understanding is most likely due to having responded to what you 
> paraphrased instead of what I originally wrote.

Technically, I didn't paraphrase.  I quoted while eliding extraneous text.  And 
I was responding to the quoted text.

The original text included the compound phrase "to hosts unprotected by 
statefulness and to topologies unabstracted by NAT."  I didn't have any 
questions about the former infinitive phrase; it was the latter phrase, the one 
I quoted, which read, "to topologies unabstracted by NAT," that I was asking 
about.

> Did you understand the analogy to ATT's demanding to know every phone user's 
> GPS coordinates?

No, sorry.  I could make neither heads nor tails of your analogy.  I failed to 
see how it connects with the question I'm asking.

>> I hope I'm inferring correctly from the above paragraph that the reason you 
>> find RFC 4193 insufficient is that it places the burden for using privacy
> 
> RFC 4193 replaces RFC 1918.  It has nothing directly to do with NAT.

Ooops!  My mistake.  I meant Privacy Extensions for Stateless Address 
Autoconfiguration in IPv6 [RFC 4941], which you would presumably want to assign 
statefully as temporary addresses with Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol for 
IPv6 (DHCPv6) [RFC 3315].

Have I conveyed my question to you adequately now?


--
james woodyatt <[email protected]>
member of technical staff, communications engineering


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