I doubt the shootout is without merit.  In the very
least, it shows the general speed of a language
implementation.  That is why the languages that we
already know are slowest are at the bottom of the list
and the fastest at the top.  Sometimes, "faster than
Ruby" or "slightly slower than Java" is the
information one needs to make an informed decision.  

Besides, one of the great strengths of the shootout is
that it is active.  Search for benchmarks on database
systems, for example, and you cannot get to the end of
one-off tests comparing MySQL latest to PostgreSQL 7
(older version).  The shootout is a fair fight and
does establish an accurate general speed mark for the
languages.  Does anyone look at the list and think,
"there's no way OCaml is that fast"?  No, I think
people look at the list and think, "looks about
right".

I would agree that the actual scores are meaningless
(aside from memory usage).  The overall ranking,
however, is telling.

Regards,

McKinley

--- skaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I doubt this. Lua has hardly any operations, so it
> isn't
> surprising it does those fast. The Shootout isn't a
> meaningful
> guide to anything. Testing some of the same things I
> get
> wildly different results (and my results are the
> result of
> re-running the tests in random order over many
> hours).
> 
> -- 
> John Skaller <skaller at users dot sf dot net>
> Felix, successor to C++: http://felix.sf.net
> 
> 
> -- 
> Neko : One VM to run them all
> (http://nekovm.org)
> 


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