Rodger,

Stuff inline.



On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ok, When I don't use the parameters, it works.
>
> C:\neo4j\neo4j-community-2.1.3\neo4j-community-2.1.3\bin> Neo4j.bat
>
> Opens the java window.
>
> But no messages at all in the command prompt.
> So, I can't tell if it started ok or not.
> Only by checking in the browser.
>

That is unfortunate. I get a bunch of messages in the DOS window and a
blank, new window for the database process.

Could you perhaps send a screenshot?




> I do read and follow the docs, so if/when they are incorrect, it really
> throws me.
>
>
> It would be better if the docs were corrected.  ie.
>
> use the .zip file (not the .exe)
>
> Get the exact command in the docs.
>
> These docs
>
> http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.neo4j.org%2Fdownload_thanks%3Fedition%3Dcommunity%26release%3D2.1.3%26platform%3Dwindows%26_ga%3D1.178145580.806495047.1408631302&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNE5BzM5WgsQu6W7eLQjXSVjzPxJHg
> say the command is:
>
> "Start the Neo4j server with bin/neo4j start from a terminal."
>
> Obviously, this was copied from LInux/Mac, since it doesn't mention the
> .bat file.
>
> But it is most incorrect for Windows.
>

You are quite right. Do you fancy helping out?

We'd love a contribution in the form of some edits to
https://github.com/neo4j/neo4j/blob/master/community/server/src/docs/ops/server-installation.asciidoc
;)

As for the download page, I'll try and ping someone to take a look. Thanks
for noting it.




> Re: Control-c to stop:
>
> What I am worried about, is that any transactions will be interrupted mid
> stream.
> And when the DB is restarted, there will be an error, that the DB was not
> previously
> shutdown correctly.
>
> It would be nice to see start/stop parameters with the windows .bat,
> as it works on LInux, and on Windows 1.9. Consistency of behavior.
> Clean shutdowns.
>

You can rely on the database maintaining it's ACID properties even when you
shut it down with CTRL-C. That is how it is designed to work currently on
Windows, and you are right it isn't as "pretty" as it is on Linux.

However, I can't promise we will invest much in this. We want overall
better usability on Windows, so we would want to move towards a slicker,
more GUI-driven experience I think. Hence the installer you tried earlier -
how did you like that one btw?

Regards,

 - Lasse



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