Have you asked Dieter if he has a better scan that he can share?

/Martin

On Sunday, 5 November 2023 at 05:30:53 UTC+1 Richard Scales wrote:

> Thank you Benoit but I need actual data to make a footprint to use in PCB 
> design application.
>
> I think I'm mostly there but was really seeking a better picture so I can 
> confirm the accuracy of the supplied numbers and to which pins they apply - 
> some of the ones buried in the centre of the display are not so clearly 
> linked to the numbers at the side.
>  - Richard
>
>
> On Saturday, 4 November 2023 at 14:37:27 UTC Benoit Tourret wrote:
>
>> try to find 0.5 mm inner diameter pipe, 10cm long, fit all the pins, pour 
>> some silicone, you should have a good representation of the socket... if 
>> you didn't forgot to add some wax or similar to unmold the silicon.
>> the more parallel your pipes will be, the more accurate your print will 
>> be.
>> for a good print, the end of the pins is not important, the most 
>> important is the place they have at the beginning, the nearest to the 
>> display. without sacrifying a display; I don't see any other way to have a 
>> good measurement.
>>
>> Le samedi 4 novembre 2023 à 10:04:19 UTC+1, Richard Scales a écrit :
>>
>>> Hello, there are indeed a few the line up - it's the ones that don't 
>>> that worry me the most!
>>>  - RIchard
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 4 November 2023 at 08:54:44 UTC Benoit Tourret wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Richard,
>>>>
>>>> have a look on the SP-351, 
>>>>
>>>> https://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/data/datasheets/SP-351_SP-352-drawing-01.jpg
>>>> [image: SP-351_SP-352-drawing-01.jpg]
>>>> not the same number of digit, but some of the pins should be 
>>>> identical...
>>>> On my SP-356, there is 0 aligned pins on a diagonal way. only in 
>>>> horizontal.
>>>>
>>>> Le samedi 4 novembre 2023 à 07:31:29 UTC+1, Richard Scales a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> I used to so that but it relies on all the pins being straight and for 
>>>>> this particular display - there are 30+ pins in a very small space - the 
>>>>> more accurate the better - especially when it finally comes to plugging 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> things in!
>>>>> [image: TTPicture.JPG][image: PPpicture.JPG]
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the differences are so subtle it's not worth worrying about. 
>>>>> It's like staring at constellations! This group on the left seems a 
>>>>> little 
>>>>> out of alignment when compared with the image from Sperry, it's 
>>>>> counterpart 
>>>>> in the image for the character on the right looks more like my chart - 
>>>>> yet 
>>>>> - from the data I have logged - the chart shows similar groupings for 
>>>>> left 
>>>>> and right - is their image wrong ? is their data wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: DDpicture.JPG]
>>>>>
>>>>> When daylight comes I'll get eyes on the physical display though I 
>>>>> fear at my age - that may be the least helpful method!
>>>>>
>>>>> - Richard
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, 4 November 2023 at 06:09:25 UTC Audrey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You could scan the bottom of one using a scanner and convert to 
>>>>>> inches/mm using the DPI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023, 2:04 AM Richard Scales <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm looking for any details of the pinout of the Sperry / Beckman 
>>>>>>> SP-252 Multi Segment display which are any better than the one that I 
>>>>>>> found 
>>>>>>> over at tube-tester.com:
>>>>>>> https://tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/data/SP-252/sp-252.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm making a footprint and need to get the pin positions as accurate 
>>>>>>> as possible. My usual process for this is to copy the pin positions 
>>>>>>> into a 
>>>>>>> spreadsheet and make a scattergram which should represent the pin 
>>>>>>> positions. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This allows me to spot any obvious blunders. It's just that the 
>>>>>>> image I have is not that clear and there is some information missing 
>>>>>>> (IMHO) 
>>>>>>> so if anyone can point me to anything better I would be most grateful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I could not find it in the Sperry Information Systems catalogue for 
>>>>>>> which I already have a PDF.
>>>>>>> - Richard
>>>>>>>
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