hmm, now that's a good point. maybe it is best to start putting back in the
stock chips. unless anyone knows of any other decent options...

On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Ike Zimbel <[email protected]> wrote:

>  I'd proceed with caution. The LM4562 looks like a great chip, BUT, the
> data sheet says that it's max supply voltage is +/-17volts...the Neotek runs
> on +/-18 volts. Also, the OPA2134 spec says that it is perfectly happy
> driving 600 ohm loads, so that may not be the issue. If you are loosing
> headroom because one or more chips is actually oscillating way out beyond
> the "dog ranges", the 4562 could potentially make that even worse, as its
> maximum gain bandwidth is 55mhz as opposed to 8mhz for the 2134!
> Best,
> Ike
>
> The Bubble wrote:
>
> Thanks for the replies guys!
>
> I fell like I didn't lose too much. I'am gonna try some other chip options.
> There are a few places where I want to swap out the OPA2134's for 
> LM4562.<http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4562.html>The OPA2134s aren't so good 
> for driving low impedance loads. which means
> lower headroom and increased distortion.  the LM4562s will go in the output
> stage and any noninverting buffer applications. I guess that's where
> OPA2134's suck.
>
> I'll let you know how it goes when I can find some time to open her up.
>
> thanks again.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Ike Zimbel <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>  Hi Alex,
>     Can you quantify this a bit? Like how much headroom do you think you
> lost? One thing you could try is putting the stock chips back in one at a
> time and see when you notice a performance change. I have yet to find one
> chip that I will use in every position in a Neotek.
> best,
> Ike
>
> The Bubble wrote:
>
> So recently we did some minor "upgrades" to the master/monitor section of
> our Elan 2. Just some ideas I picked up on the board. One of the things I
> thought it would do was give us more headroom. but seems like we kinda lost
> a little. Heres what we did...
>
> added burr-browns (OPA134 & OPA2134) to the master/monitor section.  Also
> WIMA MKP2 0.1uF polypropylene caps to bypass all the electrolytic coupling
> caps. also upgraded all 30 or so stock 10uF's. we left those original
> non-polar caps in place and soldered a 0.1uF MKP2 polypropylene cap in
> parallel with them.
>
> If anyone has some thoughts on the matter I would love to hear them.
>
> thanks and happy new year.
>
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> Alex Lyon
> www.bubblerecording.com
>
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