Just watch this, it'll tell u all you ned to know regarding the Aus gov's response to the fires: https://youtu.be/buw5WufsP5k.
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:07 AM T via NetBehaviour < [email protected]> wrote: > hi > excellent idea edward this could work as plan to the capital world! > > bolsonaro was elected cause vast majority of us are like him > unfortunately that is all we have been taught to be blind > > behind the idea that we already consume daily other species nature far > more than is acceptable > > blind to our obvious violent racist patriarchal specist origins > > our cosmologies are falling right now, as it has been for some time > > as krenak indigenous xama say we better use coloured parachutes for the > fall > > art, rituals, repair and care > > > Em 2020-01-05 12:17, Edward Picot via NetBehaviour escreveu: > > Ana, > > > > As for Bolsonaro, it's my belief, and has been for many years, that if > > the West expects a country like Brazil to preserve rainforests and > > biodiversity on behalf of the whole world, then they have to pay them > > to do it, and I mean serious money. It should be worth more > > financially to preserve the forests and export oxygen for the benefit > > of the rest of us than to cut them down and plant palm oil or create > > beef farms or whatever. Then there wouldn't be any argument. > > > > Bolsonaro is an arsehole, but wagging a finger at him in the style of > > Macron isn't going to make him budge. > > > > Edward > > > > On 05/01/2020 15:05, Ana Valdés via NetBehaviour wrote: > > > >> Thanks for sharing so important inputs and thoughts! I feel a > >> growing frustration about how politicians are handling this issues. > >> In the worst draugh a province in Australia sold the common water to > >> a private enterprise. > >> And neither Bolsonaro or Morrison or Trump are acting as leaders in > >> time of a crisis. They carry on and on and on not relating fires to > >> capitalism and its ways, fracking and mining. > >> They despise the knowledge of scientists and of the aboriginal ways > >> to live and work they blame the people speaking about climate > >> change. > >> I assume many on this list are familiar with Donna Haraway. Her > >> writings about the Anthroposcene a new age where we, Mankind, are > >> responsible for disasters and ways to live which unsettle Nature and > >> the natural order are very important and give advice and > >> explanations. > >> Ana > >> > >> El El dom, 5 de ene. de 2020 a la(s) 11:43, Edward Picot via > >> NetBehaviour <[email protected]> escribió: > >> > >> Helen, > >> > >> That's really useful information about the donation links and the > >> Adani coal mine. I didn't know about the coal mine before. > >> > >> As for Scott Morrison and his government, I think there's more to it > >> than sheer stupidity. As with Trump and Boris Johnson, there's a > >> right-wing populist agenda at play, which is all about protecting > >> and promoting the interests of big business, but it sustains itself > >> in power by appealing to certain lowest-common-denominator > >> prejudices in the minds of the voting public, and serving up what > >> are basically lies to reinforce its appeal. So Morrison has now > >> moved on from claiming that the link between bushfires and global > >> warming is all in the minds of urban woke greeny loony lefties; he's > >> now claiming that he never denied that link in the first place; but > >> he's also making out that the bushfires are particularly bad because > >> the greeny loony lefties have been blocking bushfire hazard > >> reduction measures in the national parks. This is rejected as > >> nonsense by bushfire experts, but the claim doesn't have to be > >> accurate to make its impact. And that's the problem. Populist > >> politics has found the faultline in modern democracy, where things > >> don't have to be true, or even make sense, to influence voting > >> patterns; they use tactics of misinformation and misdirection as a > >> deliberate policy to sustain themselves in power. And the left/green > >> parties haven't yet found a way to counteract those tactics, or to > >> tap into the huge groundswell of opinion which is undoubtedly > >> building behind environmentalist causes, particularly amongst the > >> young. In countries like the UK young people just take it for > >> granted that something urgently needs to be done about the > >> environment; but they don't have any faith in the political parties > >> to deliver the required changes. So their convictions don't > >> translate into votes. And you can't blame them. The environment > >> hardly featured as an issue in the election we just had. > >> > >> Things are going to change, I'm sure. But how much damage is the > >> planet going to sustain before the changes happen? It's a > >> frightening prospect. > >> > >> Edward > >> > >> On 05/01/2020 13:10, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote: > >> > >> hi alan, > >> > >> it is truly devastating & catastrophic what is happening in > >> australia, & outrageous that the government there continues to be so > >> fucking stupid. i heard that scott morrison (the prime minister, who > >> chose to have a hawaiian holiday in the midst of it all) would fly > >> out to china to discuss trade negotiations, including coal mining, > >> immediately after meeting with fire chiefs. his inability to make > >> the connections is staggering. > >> > >> i have many family and friends in australia and everyone is affected > >> in some way; some have lost property, everyone is affected by the > >> smoke, my family & friends in new zealand are also seeing and > >> breathing the smoke. yes, an estimated half a billion birds, animals > >> & insects have died. and the fires are still burning, many out of > >> control, and no end in sight. this level of catastrophe has been > >> predicted - but not for another decade; everything is accelerating. > >> > >> what can we do? suzon posted this list of donation links: > >> > > > https://www.abc.net.au/classic/read-and-watch/news/bushfire-donations/11823676 > >> - there are plenty of places to make financial donations & if you > >> are in australia there are practical things you can do to help. > >> > >> we can write to scott morrison (@scottmorrisonmp on twitter) and > >> other australian politicians, urging them to take the climate > >> emergency seriously (australia is one of the worst countries in the > >> world in terms of climate policy: > >> > > > https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australia-s-climate-change-policy-ranked-57-out-of-61-countries > ) > >> > >> > >> a related campaign that is well worth supporting is the long > >> struggle against the adani coal mine - is a major fossil-fuel > >> extraction project which will contribute massively to global warming > >> as well as being totally unethical. the queensland government > >> illegally rescinded native title to allow the mine to go ahead, & > >> the wangan & jagalingou indigenous people have been bankrupted > >> trying to stop the mine. > >> https://wanganjagalingou.com.au/pledge-to-stand-with-us/ > >> https://www.acf.org.au/email_siemens_global > >> > >> it's hard to wish a happy new year in the face of all of this (not > >> to mention the tragic zoo fire in germany, 30 primates killed thanks > >> to someone's carelessness) but i can only hope that the scale of > >> devastation will force politicians to accept that they must act, > >> urgently, and that we will enter into a decade of positive change > >> ... > >> > >> h xx > >> On 03.01.20 20:26, Alan Sondheim wrote: > >> > >> (Apologies for a 2nd post today; I think the situation warrants it. > >> How do we, as a community, respond to this? To the approx. 480m > >> killed? To a Ballard future collapsing around us? How do we stop > >> from harming ourselves, how can we act intelligently with this like > >> this - on top of all the other horrors? Because this is going to > >> spread of course; the ash on NZ glaciers accelerating melt. What do > >> we do? What do we do as a community?) > >> > >> Fires in Australia > >> > >> http://www.alansondheim.org/Victoria.jpg (map) > >> http://www.alansondheim.org/Victoria.mp3 (radio) > >> > >> In Pennsylvania, we had house-destroying floods, mine fires, > >> highly polluted air. We went back and explored the area (around > >> Wilkes-Barre/Kingston) last April. I've had my own things > >> destroyed in floods several times, oddly including a storage > >> container in Los Angeles, a closet in Providence, my parents' > >> house in Kingston. But nothing, ever, like this. Reading Ballard, > >> the world's future is spelled out as a scenario for now. Teaching > >> "The Year 3000" back in the early 70s, I was face-to-face with > >> the statistics. I've continue to talk and write and think about > >> this. I was influenced by post-modern geography, and by the > >> collapsed flora of the Carboniferous/Pennsylvanian, which I > >> collected. I grew up negative. I've been following the fires and > >> started interviewing a few people by Skype, people from eastern > >> Australia. I'm trying to make sense of this, trying to find > >> optimism in a situation which I see as the beginning of something > >> problematic, horrifying. (I'll send the interviews out to the > >> lists.) I listened late last night (here) to the radio - a short > >> segment is above. The map gives some indication of locations. > >> > >> There was a report that 480 million animals have died in the > >> fires. 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