Wow. This is such a good piece for sharing. Thanks. Love and rage, Ann On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 7:28 PM Mez Breeze via NetBehaviour < [email protected]> wrote:
> Just watch this, it'll tell u all you ned to know regarding the Aus gov's > response to the fires: https://youtu.be/buw5WufsP5k. > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:07 AM T via NetBehaviour < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> hi >> excellent idea edward this could work as plan to the capital world! >> >> bolsonaro was elected cause vast majority of us are like him >> unfortunately that is all we have been taught to be blind >> >> behind the idea that we already consume daily other species nature far >> more than is acceptable >> >> blind to our obvious violent racist patriarchal specist origins >> >> our cosmologies are falling right now, as it has been for some time >> >> as krenak indigenous xama say we better use coloured parachutes for the >> fall >> >> art, rituals, repair and care >> >> >> Em 2020-01-05 12:17, Edward Picot via NetBehaviour escreveu: >> > Ana, >> > >> > As for Bolsonaro, it's my belief, and has been for many years, that if >> > the West expects a country like Brazil to preserve rainforests and >> > biodiversity on behalf of the whole world, then they have to pay them >> > to do it, and I mean serious money. It should be worth more >> > financially to preserve the forests and export oxygen for the benefit >> > of the rest of us than to cut them down and plant palm oil or create >> > beef farms or whatever. Then there wouldn't be any argument. >> > >> > Bolsonaro is an arsehole, but wagging a finger at him in the style of >> > Macron isn't going to make him budge. >> > >> > Edward >> > >> > On 05/01/2020 15:05, Ana Valdés via NetBehaviour wrote: >> > >> >> Thanks for sharing so important inputs and thoughts! I feel a >> >> growing frustration about how politicians are handling this issues. >> >> In the worst draugh a province in Australia sold the common water to >> >> a private enterprise. >> >> And neither Bolsonaro or Morrison or Trump are acting as leaders in >> >> time of a crisis. They carry on and on and on not relating fires to >> >> capitalism and its ways, fracking and mining. >> >> They despise the knowledge of scientists and of the aboriginal ways >> >> to live and work they blame the people speaking about climate >> >> change. >> >> I assume many on this list are familiar with Donna Haraway. Her >> >> writings about the Anthroposcene a new age where we, Mankind, are >> >> responsible for disasters and ways to live which unsettle Nature and >> >> the natural order are very important and give advice and >> >> explanations. >> >> Ana >> >> >> >> El El dom, 5 de ene. de 2020 a la(s) 11:43, Edward Picot via >> >> NetBehaviour <[email protected]> escribió: >> >> >> >> Helen, >> >> >> >> That's really useful information about the donation links and the >> >> Adani coal mine. I didn't know about the coal mine before. >> >> >> >> As for Scott Morrison and his government, I think there's more to it >> >> than sheer stupidity. As with Trump and Boris Johnson, there's a >> >> right-wing populist agenda at play, which is all about protecting >> >> and promoting the interests of big business, but it sustains itself >> >> in power by appealing to certain lowest-common-denominator >> >> prejudices in the minds of the voting public, and serving up what >> >> are basically lies to reinforce its appeal. So Morrison has now >> >> moved on from claiming that the link between bushfires and global >> >> warming is all in the minds of urban woke greeny loony lefties; he's >> >> now claiming that he never denied that link in the first place; but >> >> he's also making out that the bushfires are particularly bad because >> >> the greeny loony lefties have been blocking bushfire hazard >> >> reduction measures in the national parks. This is rejected as >> >> nonsense by bushfire experts, but the claim doesn't have to be >> >> accurate to make its impact. And that's the problem. Populist >> >> politics has found the faultline in modern democracy, where things >> >> don't have to be true, or even make sense, to influence voting >> >> patterns; they use tactics of misinformation and misdirection as a >> >> deliberate policy to sustain themselves in power. And the left/green >> >> parties haven't yet found a way to counteract those tactics, or to >> >> tap into the huge groundswell of opinion which is undoubtedly >> >> building behind environmentalist causes, particularly amongst the >> >> young. In countries like the UK young people just take it for >> >> granted that something urgently needs to be done about the >> >> environment; but they don't have any faith in the political parties >> >> to deliver the required changes. So their convictions don't >> >> translate into votes. And you can't blame them. The environment >> >> hardly featured as an issue in the election we just had. >> >> >> >> Things are going to change, I'm sure. But how much damage is the >> >> planet going to sustain before the changes happen? It's a >> >> frightening prospect. >> >> >> >> Edward >> >> >> >> On 05/01/2020 13:10, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote: >> >> >> >> hi alan, >> >> >> >> it is truly devastating & catastrophic what is happening in >> >> australia, & outrageous that the government there continues to be so >> >> fucking stupid. i heard that scott morrison (the prime minister, who >> >> chose to have a hawaiian holiday in the midst of it all) would fly >> >> out to china to discuss trade negotiations, including coal mining, >> >> immediately after meeting with fire chiefs. his inability to make >> >> the connections is staggering. >> >> >> >> i have many family and friends in australia and everyone is affected >> >> in some way; some have lost property, everyone is affected by the >> >> smoke, my family & friends in new zealand are also seeing and >> >> breathing the smoke. yes, an estimated half a billion birds, animals >> >> & insects have died. and the fires are still burning, many out of >> >> control, and no end in sight. this level of catastrophe has been >> >> predicted - but not for another decade; everything is accelerating. >> >> >> >> what can we do? suzon posted this list of donation links: >> >> >> > >> https://www.abc.net.au/classic/read-and-watch/news/bushfire-donations/11823676 >> >> - there are plenty of places to make financial donations & if you >> >> are in australia there are practical things you can do to help. >> >> >> >> we can write to scott morrison (@scottmorrisonmp on twitter) and >> >> other australian politicians, urging them to take the climate >> >> emergency seriously (australia is one of the worst countries in the >> >> world in terms of climate policy: >> >> >> > >> https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australia-s-climate-change-policy-ranked-57-out-of-61-countries >> ) >> >> >> >> >> >> a related campaign that is well worth supporting is the long >> >> struggle against the adani coal mine - is a major fossil-fuel >> >> extraction project which will contribute massively to global warming >> >> as well as being totally unethical. the queensland government >> >> illegally rescinded native title to allow the mine to go ahead, & >> >> the wangan & jagalingou indigenous people have been bankrupted >> >> trying to stop the mine. >> >> https://wanganjagalingou.com.au/pledge-to-stand-with-us/ >> >> https://www.acf.org.au/email_siemens_global >> >> >> >> it's hard to wish a happy new year in the face of all of this (not >> >> to mention the tragic zoo fire in germany, 30 primates killed thanks >> >> to someone's carelessness) but i can only hope that the scale of >> >> devastation will force politicians to accept that they must act, >> >> urgently, and that we will enter into a decade of positive change >> >> ... >> >> >> >> h xx >> >> On 03.01.20 20:26, Alan Sondheim wrote: >> >> >> >> (Apologies for a 2nd post today; I think the situation warrants it. >> >> How do we, as a community, respond to this? To the approx. 480m >> >> killed? To a Ballard future collapsing around us? How do we stop >> >> from harming ourselves, how can we act intelligently with this like >> >> this - on top of all the other horrors? Because this is going to >> >> spread of course; the ash on NZ glaciers accelerating melt. What do >> >> we do? What do we do as a community?) >> >> >> >> Fires in Australia >> >> >> >> http://www.alansondheim.org/Victoria.jpg (map) >> >> http://www.alansondheim.org/Victoria.mp3 (radio) >> >> >> >> In Pennsylvania, we had house-destroying floods, mine fires, >> >> highly polluted air. We went back and explored the area (around >> >> Wilkes-Barre/Kingston) last April. I've had my own things >> >> destroyed in floods several times, oddly including a storage >> >> container in Los Angeles, a closet in Providence, my parents' >> >> house in Kingston. But nothing, ever, like this. Reading Ballard, >> >> the world's future is spelled out as a scenario for now. Teaching >> >> "The Year 3000" back in the early 70s, I was face-to-face with >> >> the statistics. I've continue to talk and write and think about >> >> this. I was influenced by post-modern geography, and by the >> >> collapsed flora of the Carboniferous/Pennsylvanian, which I >> >> collected. I grew up negative. I've been following the fires and >> >> started interviewing a few people by Skype, people from eastern >> >> Australia. I'm trying to make sense of this, trying to find >> >> optimism in a situation which I see as the beginning of something >> >> problematic, horrifying. (I'll send the interviews out to the >> >> lists.) I listened late last night (here) to the radio - a short >> >> segment is above. The map gives some indication of locations. >> >> >> >> There was a report that 480 million animals have died in the >> >> fires. 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