hi james these are relieving things to hear. i am quite similar in regards to art and money. why subject my love to the monetary anyhow.. i moved to nyc from a small ohio town a little over a year ago now.. my wide eyes fixed on the art world and what i had childishly perceived it to be.. looking back, i really do not have a clue what i expected.. but what i have seen in my short time here is, well..not it. i cant help but find it a sham. a wealth injected, 'who do ya know?', sham. maybe i am still more naive than ever.. maybe i am looking in the wrong places? i hope.
brian On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:43 AM, james of jwm-art net <[email protected]>wrote: > Ok. My own paranoia about how my behaviour here might be seen was running > away with it. That apart, I'm starting to feel a bit desperate. > Netbehaviour is like a little porthole into the art world in some way, > ie it's my only contact with anybody involved with the arts. I've > never made money from art, have never really tried to == have never > believed I could convince anyone to give me money for it, so non-arts > employment is what keeps me going financially... But the recruitment > agency have not found me any temporary work since the last > 'assignment' where I was given the boot for having time off due to a > rather nasty cold, in November. Part of the problem I have with > conceiving of how to make money for myself, from my art, is how to frame > what I do within what seem to me to be generally restrictive categories, > (sure, this isn't a unique problem but perhaps I've not been doing > what is required of a professional artist, long enough to make it more > of a problem than it should be). Back to the posturing, I think some of > the stuff I do does this, and sometimes that's what it's about, > finding postures, and mostly it's about things personal to me, so I > think these things might appear to someone else in a completely > different light as to how they do to me. Which tends to make me worry > constantly that it will be 'crap' or that I'm doing something wrong > or rubbing people up the wrong way, when in general that's not my > intention... i could go on, and on.. > > though to be honest, i'm not actually feeling too bad. i think things > will get better. something i read recently, echoed on netb, comparing > what we have now, compared with the 1950's, evolution despite entropy. > > james > > On 6/1/2009, "marc garrett" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >Hi James, > > > >My silly language really - I suppose it means that instead of going > >through the normal processes of arguing, lets leave some moments of > >shared feelings and values, regarding our own vulnerabilities which > >reflect a wider context - breath a little. Even allowing room for > >emotion can in itself be a critical thing, but less structured. > > > >Trad = traditional. > > > >posturing = To assume a pose or position. > > > >marc > >> Hi Marc, > >> > >> I'm awfully tempted to go into a long-winded email blab, but instead > >> I'm just going to ask: what is trad-posturing? > >> > >> James. > >> > >> > >> On 6/1/2009, "marc garrett" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Hi Jeremy, > >>> > >>> Sorry to hear about your friend & I hope being with close ones during > >>> this period has helped in some way... > >>> > >>> > >>>> it helps me to see that we are sharing like this... > >>>> > >>> I agree, perhaps a bit of vulnerability is a healthy thing in contrast > >>> to the trad-posturing for a change :-) > >>> > >>> A happy new year to you as well. > >>> > >>> marc > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> have grown shy as to lists but .. > >>>> > >>>> it helps me to see that we are sharing like this....as it saddens me > to > >>>> see shared pain and distress like this > >>>> > >>>> my holidays were also quiet and with a small group of friends and > family > >>>> > >>>> a dear friend passed away right after christmas suddenly ...some of my > >>>> relatives are out of jobs and my father who recently retired has lost > half > >>>> of his retirement in the economic collapse.... > >>>> > >>>> I can only graze the news now as it is too painful for me to go in > depth > >>>> much of the time...and this goes against my core ...... > >>>> > >>>> The thought of a new president at least brings some hope but the > morass he > >>>> inherits is mind boggling and this will put unbelievable pressure > on.... > >>>> > >>>> well...at least gas is cheaper...... > >>>> > >>>> and this sharing of voices helps too...at least for me..... > >>>> > >>>> for what it is worth...happy new year to all > >>>> > >>>> Jeremy > >>>> > >>>> > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com
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