I did not mean to bash the project itself, and it did occur to me that the project might be subversive. Which was why I only selected the text that I did.
My main issue was the ridiculous suggestion that people using this new technology would suddenly be able to "find new uses for old things"... as if we had not been doing that for the past few millennia! As if monkeys don't do it with sticks! Etc. And then annoyance that whatever bruce sterling says is taken as word of god. Did not want to bash the project itself, good luck with it. James. On 25/6/2009, "Simon Biggs" <[email protected]> wrote: >The idea with the project Chris has introduced to the list is to enable >creative applications of this technology â particularly, social scientists >and artistsâ use of social and geo-spatial technologies. The intent is more >subversive than anything else and explicitly addresses issues of >sustainability, a focus of the research and the institutions the project >members represent. > >Note that Apple are already watching us all as red dots and have been since >the release of iPhone 3G. If you do not want to be watched then dump the >smart phone, the credit cards, your telecoms subscriptions and never accept >cookies from strangers (or anybody else). Alternatively, function as a set >of false identities (although many legislatures are making this illegal). >The information in information technology always travels both ways. > >Regards > >Simon > >Simon Biggs >Research Professor >edinburgh college of art >[email protected] >www.eca.ac.uk >www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ > >[email protected] >www.littlepig.org.uk >AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk > > > >From: Pall Thayer <[email protected]> >Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity ><[email protected]> >Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:49:55 +0000 >To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity ><[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of Things....Research Opportunities >onEPSRC funded Project] > >I don't usually worry much about surveillance. My life's more or less >an open book but this story scares me a bit. I can just imagine a >group of Apple employees, huddled around a bunch of screens with a >million red dots moving around on a Google map of the world: > >http://happywaffle.livejournal.com/5890.html > >Pall > >On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:15 PM, james morris<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>shop, store and share products. The analogue bar code that has for so >>>long been a dumb encrypted reference to a shopââ¬â¢s inventory system, >>>will >>>be superseded by an open platform in which every object manufactured >>>will be able to be tracked from cradle to grave, through manufacturer to >>>distributor, to potentially every single person who comes into contact >> >> great! more surveillance! >> >>>with it following its purchase. Further still, every object that comes >>>close to another object, and is within range of a reader, could also be >>>logged on a database and used to find correlations between owners and >>>applications. In a world that has relied upon a linear chain of supply >>>and demand between manufacturer and consumer via high street shop, the >>>Internet of Things has the potential to transform how we will treat >>>objects, care about their origin and use them to find other objects. If >>>every new object is within reach of a reader, everything is searchable >>>and findable, subsequently the shopping experience may never be the >> >> great! even more surveillance! >> >>>same, and the concept of throwing away objects may become a thing of the >>>past as other people find new uses for old things. >> >> Wow man, I'm glad all these technical boffins come up with such >> fantastic ideas... Just a pity the Wombles[1] beat them to it. >> >> [1] http://www.tidybag.co.uk/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> > > > >-- >***************************** >Pall Thayer >artist >http://www.this.is/pallit >***************************** > >_______________________________________________ >NetBehaviour mailing list >[email protected] >http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > >Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number >SC009201 > > > > _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
