Simon Biggs a probablement écrit : > I agree, referencing Bruce Sterling can be annoying.
could you explain why? > It shouldn’t be > allowed (like citing Wikipedia). ... is it ironic ? > Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.biggs@ eca > .ac.uk www. eca .ac.uk www. eca .ac.uk/circle/ > > [email protected] www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk > > > *From: *james morris <[email protected]> *Reply-To: *NetBehaviour for > networked distributed creativity <[email protected]> > *Date: *Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:12:38 +0100 (BST) *To: > *<[email protected]> *Subject: *Re: [NetBehaviour] > Internet of Things....Research OpportunitiesonEPSRC funded Project] > > > I did not mean to bash the project itself, and it did occur to me > that the project might be subversive. Which was why I only selected > the text that I did. > > My main issue was the ridiculous suggestion that people using this > new technology would suddenly be able to "find new uses for old > things"... as if we had not been doing that for the past few > millennia! As if monkeys don't do it with sticks! Etc. And then > annoyance that whatever bruce sterling says is taken as word of god. > > Did not want to bash the project itself, good luck with it. > > James. > > > On 25/6/2009, "Simon Biggs" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The idea with the project Chris has introduced to the list is to >> enable creative applications of this technology – particularly, >> social scientists and artists’ use of social and geo-spatial >> technologies. The intent is > more >> subversive than anything else and explicitly addresses issues of >> sustainability, a focus of the research and the institutions the >> project members represent. >> >> Note that Apple are already watching us all as red dots and have >> been since the release of iPhone 3G. If you do not want to be >> watched then dump the smart phone, the credit cards, your telecoms >> subscriptions and never accept cookies from strangers (or anybody >> else). Alternatively, function as a set of false identities >> (although many legislatures are making this illegal). The >> information in information technology always travels both ways. >> >> Regards >> >> Simon >> >> Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art >> [email protected] www.eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ >> >> [email protected] www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk >> >> >> >> >> From: Pall Thayer <[email protected]> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for >> networked distributed creativity <[email protected]> >> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:49:55 +0000 To: NetBehaviour for >> networked distributed creativity <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of Things....Research >> Opportunities onEPSRC funded Project] >> >> I don't usually worry much about surveillance. My life's more or >> less an open book but this story scares me a bit. I can just >> imagine a group of Apple employees, huddled around a bunch of >> screens with a million red dots moving around on a Google map of >> the world: >> >> http://happywaffle.livejournal.com/5890.html >> >> Pall >> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:15 PM, james morris<[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>>> shop, store and share products. The analogue bar code that has >>>> for so long been a dumb encrypted reference to a shop’s >>>> inventory > system, will >>>> be superseded by an open platform in which every object >>>> manufactured will be able to be tracked from cradle to grave, >>>> through manufacturer to distributor, to potentially every >>>> single person who comes into contact >>> >>> great! more surveillance! >>> >>>> with it following its purchase. Further still, every object >>>> that comes close to another object, and is within range of a >>>> reader, could also be logged on a database and used to find >>>> correlations between owners and applications. In a world that >>>> has relied upon a linear chain of supply and demand between >>>> manufacturer and consumer via high street shop, the Internet of >>>> Things has the potential to transform how we will treat >>>> objects, care about their origin and use them to find other >>>> objects. If every new object is within reach of a reader, >>>> everything is searchable and findable, subsequently the >>>> shopping experience may never be the >>> >>> great! even more surveillance! >>> >>>> same, and the concept of throwing away objects may become a >>>> thing of the past as other people find new uses for old things. >>>> >>> >>> Wow man, I'm glad all these technical boffins come up with such >>> fantastic ideas... Just a pity the Wombles[1] beat them to it. >>> >>> [1] http://www.tidybag.co.uk/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour >>> mailing list [email protected] >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>> >> >> >> >> -- ***************************** Pall Thayer artist >> http://www.this.is/pallit ***************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour >> mailing list [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> >> Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, >> > number SC009201 >> -- Yann Le Guennec http://www.yannleguennec.com _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
