honesty, opinions and debate are uncivilized now?
maybe a definition of civilization, or rather how the word is intended to be perceived by diwo at dark mountain, is in order. while arguments for both sides are clear and warranted, my favorite statement thusfar: "I will not be diverted by the manifesto in a literal way, I will exploit it so I can use my imagination according to my needs to understand it on my terms with a flexible mind, like an artist does :-)" this thread has kept me refreshing my mailbox.. thanks netbehaviour. brian On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:07 PM, karen blissett < [email protected]> wrote: > well, we certainly have proved how uncivilized we are on here ;-( > > > > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Michael Szpakowski <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Bob > that's a very genial response to my somewhat grumpy rant :) > I have to disagree, though. It's not a story - it's a polemic. It > contains things which I believe to be true and I attempt, successfully or > no, to demonstrate their truth or at least to indicate reasons for believing > them to be so. > The notion that we can at random call such things "stories" indicates > a dose of the postmodern disease where, as with Humpty Dumpty, a word > "mean just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less. " > The same thing applies to the (ab)usage of the word "civilisation" in > the manifesto. > cheers > michael > > > > --- On Wed, 10/28/09, bob catchpole <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: bob catchpole <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO at The Dark Mountain > > To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" < > [email protected]> > > Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 4:40 PM > > Michael, > > > > I believe your posting can be read as an important > > 'story'... a passionately expressed piece of > > writing about the incredible dilemna we're in... > > > > Bob > > > > Michael Szpakowski > > wrote Wednesday, 28 October, 2009 13:41:46 > > > > I live for art but if I *am* in a boat going over a > > cataract I don't paint a picture of it.... > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NetBehaviour mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com
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