How odd surely being a part of academia, management systems or a bird sitting 
on a fence is part of a closeted environment.

On 8 Jan 2010, at 00:12, brian gibson wrote:

> jesus, mart,
> you are narrow as a sparrow.
> 
> its safe to say simon is an artist, an academic, a human, a descendent of 
> biggs and more.. 
> and this is said without even really knowing the man..
> 'a man is either and artist or an academic.'
> what an absurd and dangerous idea.
> 
> get rid of all those boxes in your head.
> life is easier than you think.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:03 PM, martin mitchell <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is this an academic statement:-        You need to get out more...
> 
> Spent 7 hours today walking along Lea Valley making digital images of snow 
> and ice effects ......
> 
> On 7 Jan 2010, at 23:57, Simon Biggs wrote:
> 
>> You need to get out more...
>> 
>> Simon Biggs
>> 
>> Research Professor
>> edinburgh college of art
>> [email protected]
>> www.eca.ac.uk
>> 
>> Creative Interdisciplinary Research into CoLlaborative Environments
>> CIRCLE research group
>> www.eca.ac.uk/circle/
>> 
>> [email protected]
>> www.littlepig.org.uk
>> AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk
>> 
>> 
>> From: martin mitchell <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:55:00 +0000
>> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel 
>> VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January
>> 
>> It was used without any description of a subject matter, I'm not a 
>> politician or economist merely an artist, on reading had no idea about what 
>> writer was referring to, I do not read dreadful daily papers or listen to 
>> office management language which the original statement was concerned with, 
>> spending as much time allowed me aside from basic human needs and desires, 
>> in my studio creating mostly digital imagery.Sensible an individual on this 
>> site linked a message to ..... I'm Singing ... on YouTube .. immediately 
>> understood idea behind administrative statement.
>> On 7 Jan 2010, at 23:41, Simon Biggs wrote:
>> 
>>> It wasn’t Helen who used the term “socio-economic”, it was me. Why is that 
>>> term difficult? It seems clear to me. It evokes those aspects of the social 
>>> that are primarily to do with exchange; material and otherwise. I’d be 
>>> interested to know why it might be a difficult term for some people to 
>>> process, as it might help me tune my language in the future. I like to be 
>>> precise.
>>> 
>>> Simon Biggs
>>> 
>>> Research Professor
>>> edinburgh college of art
>>> [email protected]
>>> www.eca.ac.uk
>>> 
>>> Creative Interdisciplinary Research into CoLlaborative Environments
>>> CIRCLE research group
>>> www.eca.ac.uk/circle/
>>> 
>>> [email protected] <x-msg://96/[email protected]> 
>>> www.littlepig.org.uk <http://www.littlepig.org.uk> 
>>> AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: martin mitchell <[email protected] 
>>> <x-msg://96/[email protected]> >
>>> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
>>> <[email protected] <x-msg://96/[email protected]> >
>>> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:34:02 +0000
>>> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
>>> <[email protected] <x-msg://96/[email protected]> >
>>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel 
>>> VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January
>>> 
>>> It's not the moving image event itself but the nonsensical language used to 
>>> describe ideas you are looking for inside of those projected images onto a 
>>> screen.
>>> How does one translate into another language part of dogmatic statements 
>>> like 'running past', 'flag up' or 'socio economic' ........!
>>> 
>>> C.N.A.S.
>>> 
>>> On 7 Jan 2010, at 18:14, Helen Sloan wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Martin and List
>>>> 
>>>> Noone is censored in terms of submitting to this programme. It is open to 
>>>> all. 
>>>> 
>>>> I was merely suggesting that if  the approach of the programme feels 
>>>> uncomfortable, it may not be the right one to be involved in. 
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone wishes to contact me about submitting work or any aspect of 
>>>> Multichannel, then please get in touch.
>>>> 
>>>> Helen
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/1/10 18:01, "martin mitchell" <[email protected] 
>>>> <x-msg://96/[email protected]> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Interesting animation on you tube 'puffing away'.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok.......... idea is perhaps to do with self destruction of planet earth 
>>>>> by human beings that assume to be in control of their own destiny, a 
>>>>> problem for self aware human beings to try and resolve through creative 
>>>>> and artistic actions such as being a member of the crew on Sea Shepherd 
>>>>> but that is method of confrontation, maybe I'll think about image content 
>>>>> closer to home in the East End of London that might reflect destruction 
>>>>> of living artists environment by construction of new Olympic Park. 
>>>>> Please no more of this 'international socio-economic events" language 
>>>>> ..........!
>>>>> 
>>>>> martin mitchell.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Crispy Nails Animation Studio
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7 Jan 2010, at 17:11, james morris wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHoCd1pTJx4&feature=PlayList&p=5840AC014CA20F89&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=56
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHoCd1pTJx4&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=5840AC014CA20F89&amp;playnext=1&amp;playnext_from=PL&amp;index=56>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7/1/2010, "Simon Biggs" <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <x-msg://96/[email protected]> > wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Seems clear to me. They want some video art that engages current
>>>>>>> international socio-economic events to put in an exhibition.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Simon Biggs
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Research Professor
>>>>>>> edinburgh college of art
>>>>>>> [email protected] <x-msg://96/[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> www.eca.ac.uk <http://www.eca.ac.uk>  <http://www.eca.ac.uk 
>>>>>>> <http://www.eca.ac.uk/> > 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Creative Interdisciplinary Research into CoLlaborative Environments
>>>>>>> CIRCLE research group
>>>>>>> www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ <http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/>  
>>>>>>> <http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [email protected] <x-msg://96/[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> www.littlepig.org.uk <http://www.littlepig.org.uk>  
>>>>>>> <http://www.littlepig.org.uk <http://www.littlepig.org.uk/> > 
>>>>>>> AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: martin mitchell <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <x-msg://96/[email protected]> >
>>>>>>> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>>>>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <x-msg://96/[email protected]> >
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:50:15 +0000
>>>>>>> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>>>>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <x-msg://96/[email protected]> >
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel Variable
>>>>>>> Economies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is this another example of administrative gobbledegook ...........!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Have no idear of what you are trying to describe.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> martin mitchell [ artist ].
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 7 Jan 2010, at 11:25, Helen Sloan wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is my first post here and it's a call - sorry. I really enjoyed 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Dark Mountain debate and the one that's emerging on Second Life so far.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Meantime, I hope this is of interest and do contact if you want more 
>>>>>>>> info.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Happy New Year
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Helen 
>>>>>>>> Helen Sloan
>>>>>>>> SCAN
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS: Multichannel 3
>>>>>>>> Title: Variable Economies
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Variable Economies provides the theme for the programme of works for
>>>>>>>> Multichannel 2010. The theme implies the current global economic 
>>>>>>>> downturn,
>>>>>>>> decreased availability of resources influenced by human intervention 
>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>> natural environment, shifts in national and global political emphasis, 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> formally in relation to the making of artist film and video.  For
>>>>>>>> Multichannel 2010 artists are invited to submit works for selection 
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> touch upon the themes of the programme in terms of the use of the
>>>>>>>> medium/material of film and video.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Multichannel is a screening programme of artists film and video, 
>>>>>>>> organised
>>>>>>>> and curated by ArtSway and SCAN in ArtSway’s galleries. The programme, 
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> previously took place at ArtSway in 2007 and 2008, will once again 
>>>>>>>> feature
>>>>>>>> both established practitioners, as well as ground breaking video works 
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> artists from across the UK, and around the world. This year we are 
>>>>>>>> pleased
>>>>>>>> to announce that Animate Projects will partner on Multichannel.
>>>>>>>> The selection panel for Multichannel 3 is: Gary Thomas, Co-director 
>>>>>>>> Animate
>>>>>>>> Projects; Helen Sloan, Director, SCAN; Peter Bonnell, Curator, ArtSway.
>>>>>>>> Criteria/ Format of works for selection: Please submit your work for 
>>>>>>>> viewing
>>>>>>>> on DVD. Should your piece be selected, we will ask you to supply your 
>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>> as raw uncompressed files preferably on MiniDV, uncompressed .mpg or 
>>>>>>>> ..avi.
>>>>>>>> Duration: We will accept pieces of any duration but please be aware 
>>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>> screenings last up to 2 hours and shorter pieces will take preference. 
>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>> exceptional circumstances we may be able to consider one-off 
>>>>>>>> screenings of
>>>>>>>> longer pieces. Open to: artists of any age, in any part of the world,
>>>>>>>> working in the format of film or video.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Deadline for submitting works: Thursday 28 January 2010
>>>>>>>> Selection panel meets: Week beginning 8 February 2010
>>>>>>>> Notification of selection result: 26 February 2010
>>>>>>>> Exhibition of Multichannel 3 at ArtSway: 2 April - 11 April 2010
>>>>>>>> Contact and address to send work: Peter Bonnell, Curator, ArtSway, 
>>>>>>>> Station
>>>>>>>> Road, Sway, SO41 6BA, UK
>>>>>>>> For more information please contact Peter on +44 (0)1590 682260 (+4) or
>>>>>>>> email: [email protected] <x-msg://96/[email protected]>  
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> 
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