Hi Simon,

Just catching up,

Good to read a contextual and historical side about you. I find it 
fascinating how people's creative ventures are influenced by their past 
experiences, and how this can produce unique selves, that (thankfully) 
define our differences, whether our accumalted influences are formal, 
not formal or both.

I have always been drawn to those who think differently - as in, not 
fitting into mainstream behaviours - I suppose engaging in art or 
related contexts is an inevitable place or space to exist in. Finding 
alternative ways to think and different paths to wander, this brings 
about valuable resources for self-learning. And how we manage to 
incorporate this 'stuff', nourish our imagination(s) is part of a never 
ending struggle.

I also think it's equally interesting that, even though we need things 
which stimulate us, or at least encourage us to make and explore 
creative and imaginative territories. We also need the bland other, the 
backgorund where our art and related activities and ideas rests upon or 
against - a contrast which in some way is different from the everyday, 
even when art blurs it is still separate due to the relational aspects 
and intentions behind creating such things.

Life can be a meme, but can art be meme non-intentionally?

wishing you well.

marc



I am with Marc on this, in more ways than one.

I come from what could be considered a privileged background, compared 
to what Marc describes. Mine was a middle class academic family growing 
up on a beautiful wild beach in Australia (as different from Southend on 
Sea as you could get, except for the presence of the sea). However, like 
Marc, I didn’t school well. I ran away from home at 15, living on 
communes and in surfer communities around the country (this was the 
beginning of the 70’s, so that wasn’t that unusual then). My parents, 
being liberals, could not find any way of dealing with this. The result 
was I never acquired a school or University qualification and am 
effectively self-taught.

Hippy life can burn you out. Too many drugs and too much disorder 
eventually get to you. I went off to live on my own, quietly, to 
concentrate on what I felt I could do well – painting. I was again 
lucky, as in my childhood the family friends were mostly artists (my 
mother was a poet) so I learned both technical knowledge from a young 
age and also an appreciation of what the artist’s life can be. It was an 
easy thing for me to slip into being. I never went to art college. So, 
it is strange for me that throughout my professional life I have often 
found myself working in art colleges and other academic environments. 
They are not alien to me, as I grew up in a studious context, with books 
and art. But it can be weird to teach when you can only imagine what it 
is like to be a student. However, one advantage I have is that I can 
argue, with conviction, that a degree is not a pre-requisite to being an 
artist. I can describe education as being about a personal journey into 
knowledge and creativity, not a piece of paper that will eventually 
validate you. My own experience can stand as evidence that you do not 
need to fulfil other people’s expectations to achieve what you want.

Education is the most effective force for social change I have come 
across and it should be the right of every individual to have as much of 
it as they want (or can stand). Education can (should) be a primary 
resource for transformation. It does not need to be formalised, but to 
create substantial resource infrastructure you sometimes need large 
institutions. When I argue the case for artists working in academic 
environments I do so from a conviction concerning education’s 
transformative capacity, not from some idea that everyone needs to be 
appropriately validated. That validation is part of the problem with 
education.

Best

Simon


Simon Biggs

Research Professor
edinburgh college of art
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www. eca .ac.uk

C reative I nterdisciplinary R esearch into C o L laborative E nvironments
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Hi Curt & all,

As someone who mainly comes from a self-education position, or rather
from a place where I come from a very poor and violent working class
family - which spent most of the time either being put in social care,
whether this be in borstals and prison, plus family members vanishing
because of the failures of 70's social (un)care systems. Just think of
'Cathy Come Home' by Ken Loach -
http://en.wikipediaorg/wiki/Cathy_Come_Home and may get some idea of my
own personal history. Moving on from that I wish to mention that, for me
education is one of the most important aspects of human development and
a human right.

Because I was not fortunate when younger to be able to experience a
decent education, I had to discover various sneaky ways in finding
information that the terrible school I was at, was not teaching me. My
passion to discover what was going in the world beyond the chaos of my
everyday circumstance was strong - even obsessed, whether it was in
science, politics, technology, history, philosophy or art, I would bunk
school regularly and spend an awful lot of my time in the Essex Library,
which thankfully was in Southend-on-Sea, a town 50 miles from London.
Some examples of what I read from the age of 12 and 13 and (of course)
onwards, were books such as the The Mass Psychology of Fascism by
Wilhelm Reich, The Divided Self by R. D. Laing, James Joyce, T. S. Eliot
and D. H. Lawrence. Carl Jung, Fear of Flying by Erica Jong, Herbert
Read - especially Education Through Art and The Paradox of Anarchism,
loads of art books. I am not saying that I understood these
publications, but I am saying that it encouraged me to learn more and I
have not stopped since.

So, when I think of education I do not immediately think of official
education as in universities or colleges. For I am a strong advocate of
self-education, which also involves one being self critical as well.
There is larger and broader context where individuals have the choice to
explore life, art and all the other equally important subjects outside
institution environments as well. One of my personal worries in respect
of UK culture, which may be also the same regarding USA, although
influenced through different historical, political situations is that,
my own class - as in, working class has turned into a mass of gibbering
X Factor driven bimbos. Of course, this is not a universal issue, but
the consumer orientated mediation of our cultures via neo liberal
agendas have not helped.

I personally do not think that individuals themselves should deny any
official forms of education. For there are some good educators here and
there who are decent and authentic in appreciating how to learn
themselves, and are active in the process of engaging with students in
ways that attempt in spirit, to transcend beyond the bland and
over-efficient trappings of slack management structures that manner are
dealing with. Not just this, economics is factor in the real world and
gaining degrees and learning via institutional means gets you a job.
 From that, if you are artist you get some proper money to fund your own
projects on your own terms etc...

The irony of learning outside of my school environment at that age was
that, at 14 I was asked to go to college at weekends by the Essex
council. Which was strange because all the other students were on
average 17-20 years of age. I was told to go back to school or they
would put me in a Borstal, so I did in the end.

 From this experience ideas around education have also been informed by
writers such as 'Deschooling Society' by Ivan Illich, and other works
such "Pedagogy of the Oppressed' by Paulo Friere. Yet, in contrast to
all of this art (whatever medium) as a from of creative expression has
always been my main agenda and always will be :-)

wishing you well.

marc
 > Hi Rob (and all),
 >
 > Fun quotes (for the prose alone). Yes. stones, glass houses, logs in
 > eyes and specks in eyes. The following quote is from the
 > acknowledgements of Rita Raley's 2009 "Tactical Media" book (which I
 > will teach this semester in a freshman "liberal studies introductory
 > colloquium" course called "Tactical Media / D.I.Y. Anarchy"):
 >
 > "It is my fervent wish that this book will become obsolete becaues
 > the world will have changed so dramatically that this study of
 > art-activism could only appar as a quaint historical artifact, its
 > latent pessimism misguided, its failure to imagine otherwise
 > indicative of the author's poverty of imagination. Until such a
 > point, I will continue to look to tactical media artists for
 > inspiration and guidance." (xii)
 >
 > Not that I myself look to "tactical media artists" for much
 > inspiration or guidance, and probably by the end of the course we
 > will have critiqued their approaches from contradictory perspectives
 > -- the work is too didactic/hamfisted/pragmatic; the work is too
 > disengaged/esoteric/impotent. (Throw a critical stone in the air and
 > you will hit a tactical media artist.)
 >
 > It is always amusing to me when artists and/or educators try to
 > out-ethicalize each other, as if any of us are all that directly,
 > pragmatically, quantitatively, measurably changing anything. For me,
 > art and teaching are a gamble -- a gamble that some kind of abstract
 > affective agency will eventually modulate actual aspects of the world
 > in some way that will "matter." Consequently, I admire others who are
 > making similar wagers. But I don't ever fool myself into believing
 > that I'm on the street feeding the poor. Because I've done that kind
 > of work as well, and it's quite a different thing.
 >
 > Rock & Roll Ain't No Pollution,
 > Curt
 >
 >
 >
 >   
 >> There's more irony to be had in the quotes, that's why I posted them.
 >> That and, as Michael points out, they are funny.
 >>
 >> Art & Language are anti-academic but started and have often ended up in
 >> academia. They are politically committed but show at a gentrifying,
 >> market-leading gallery. Despite protests to the contrary they are
 >> radical artists who have artworld careers. I like them.
 >>
 >> It's very easy to criticise academia, artistic careerism, the art
 >> market, politically/socially committed art etc. from the security of
 >> one's own, virtuous, position outside of them. But there's no point
 >> outside the world where we can stand and point and laugh at it.
 >>
 >> We all need to be careful about glass houses, or at least work on
 >> smashing our own windows, whether our teaching means we are objectively
 >> in academia or our radical socially committed artistic practice means we
 >> are objectively part of gentrification.
 >>
 >> The most important criticism is self-criticism, although this may
 >> sometimes mean that we have to admit we are not criticising others
 >> enough. ;-) I've taught, I've wired up abandoned warehouses, I've
 >> attended private views, I write reviews for a techno-art-and-society web
 >> community. We are all guilty...
 >>
 >> - Rob.
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