Thanks Marc,

I would say that explains a lot, and I mean that as a compliment. In 
addition to Illich and Friere, I would add Ranciere's "The Ignorant 
Schoolmaster." We homeschool four children with a fifth on the way, 
so teaching, art making, and writing are increasingly intertwined in 
my life. I myself have had a largely positive experience with 
"institutional" education, probably because some of the institutions 
I attended were very experimental, and even within the less 
experimental institutions, some of the teachers I had were radically 
experimental. I admire Beuys and Cage as experimental educators, and 
Black Mountain College (very near here) continues to inform my 
pedagogical aspirations. Perhaps my favorite pedagogical texts are 
Paul Klee's Bauhaus notebooks: "The Thinking Eye" and "The Nature of 
Nature," just because they are so rigorously exhaustive.

More than any craft (including artmaking, including writing) teaching 
is a bottomless pit. You could devote an entire life to mastering the 
craft and you would still have barely begun to scratch the surface. 
But we scratch on.

Best,
Curt



>Hi Curt & all,
>
>As someone who mainly comes from a self-education position, or rather
>from a place where I come from a very poor and violent working class
>family - which spent most of the time either being put in social care,
>whether this be in borstals and prison, plus family members vanishing
>because of the failures of 70's social (un)care systems. Just think of
>'Cathy Come Home' by Ken Loach -
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathy_Come_Home and may get some idea of my
>own personal history. Moving on from that I wish to mention that, for me
>education is one of the most important aspects of human development and
>a human right.
>
>Because I was not fortunate when younger to be able to experience a
>decent education, I had to discover various sneaky ways in finding
>information that the terrible school I was at, was not teaching me. My
>passion to discover what was going in the world beyond the chaos of my
>everyday circumstance was strong - even obsessed, whether it was in
>science, politics, technology, history, philosophy or art, I would bunk
>school regularly and spend an awful lot of my time in the Essex Library,
>which thankfully was in Southend-on-Sea, a town 50 miles from London.
>Some examples of what I read from the age of 12 and 13 and (of course)
>onwards, were books such as the The Mass Psychology of Fascism by
>Wilhelm Reich, The Divided Self by R. D. Laing, James Joyce, T. S. Eliot
>and D. H. Lawrence. Carl Jung, Fear of Flying by Erica Jong, Herbert
>Read - especially Education Through Art and The Paradox of Anarchism,
>loads of art books. I am not saying that I understood these
>publications, but I am saying that it encouraged me to learn more and I
>have not stopped since.
>
>So, when I think of education I do not immediately think of official
>education as in universities or colleges. For I am a strong advocate of
>self-education, which also involves one being self critical as well.
>There is larger and broader context where individuals have the choice to
>explore life, art and all the other equally important subjects outside
>institution environments as well. One of my personal worries in respect
>of UK culture, which may be also the same regarding USA, although
>influenced through different historical, political situations is that,
>my own class - as in, working class has turned into a mass of gibbering
>X Factor driven bimbos. Of course, this is not a universal issue, but
>the consumer orientated mediation of our cultures via neo liberal
>agendas have not helped.
>
>I personally do not think that individuals themselves should deny any
>official forms of education. For there are some good educators here and
>there who are decent and authentic in appreciating how to learn
>themselves, and are active in the process of engaging with students in
>ways that attempt in spirit, to transcend beyond the bland and
>over-efficient trappings of slack management structures that manner are
>dealing with. Not just this, economics is factor in the real world and
>gaining degrees and learning via institutional means gets you a job.
>  From that, if you are artist you get some proper money to fund your own
>projects on your own terms etc...
>
>The irony of learning outside of my school environment at that age was
>that, at 14 I was asked to go to college at weekends by the Essex
>council. Which was strange because all the other students were on
>average 17-20 years of age. I was told to go back to school or they
>would put me in a Borstal, so I did in the end.
>
>  From this experience ideas around education have also been informed by
>writers such as 'Deschooling Society' by Ivan Illich, and other works
>such "Pedagogy of the Oppressed' by Paulo Friere. Yet, in contrast to
>all of this art (whatever medium) as a from of creative expression has
>always been my main agenda and always will be :-)
>
>wishing you well.
>
>marc

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