Yes, that's why I suggested not using your own IP, at least not without
masking (Tor). It will be traceable. However, it is open to question whether
a court could secure a conviction on the evidence of IP traces alone.
Personally, I wouldn't want to test the law.

Best

Simon


On 12/12/2010 12:26, "marc garrett" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Simon & all,
> 
> Just getting back to the ealier part of the discussion here, relating to
> the Anonymous hacktivist movement who have been fighting for wikileaks.
> 
> Found this info on Slashdot.org this morning which is pretty interesting...
> 
> "For a number of days the websites of MasterCard, Visa, PayPal and
> others are attacked by a group of WikiLeaks supporters (hacktivists).
> Although the group calls itself 'Anonymous,' researchers at the DACS
> group of the University of Twente (UT), the Netherlands, discovered that
> these hacktivists are easy traceable (PDF)
> (http://www.simpleweb.org/reports/loic-report.pdf), and therefore
> anything but anonymous
> (http://www.utwente.nl/ewi/dacs/news/archive/2010/wikileaks.doc/index.html).
> The LOIC (Low Orbit Ion Cannon) software, which is used by the
> hacktivists, was analyzed by UT researchers, who concluded that the
> attacks generated by this tool are relatively simple and unveil the
> identity of the attacker. If hacktivists use this tool directly from
> their own machines, instead of via anonymization networks such as Tor,
> the Internet address of the attacker is included in every Internet
> message being transmitted. In the tools no sophisticated techniques are
> used, such as IP-spoofing, in which the source address of others is
> used, or reflected attacks, in which attacks go via third party systems.
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/394t5ub
> 
> wishing you well.
> 
> marc
> 
> 
>> You can get 2 years for downloading DOS software and 10 years for
> using it.
>> People are going to be prosecuted and the courts will be pressured by
>> government to be tough with their sentencing.
>> 
>> If anybody wants to be involved with anon-ops I would recommend using a
>> dedicated Mac with nothing important on the hard drive. Install and run
>> Parallels and run the DOS software within that. Make your contribution to
>> the activity. Then reformat your hard drive using a destructive wipe
> mode.
>> That will cover your tracks. As Mac OS cannot run the DOS software
> you have
>> a good defence - "I don't have a PC!" (who would have thought,
> another good
>> reason to buy a Mac).
>> 
>> The only evidence the court would have will be datalogs from your IP.
> This
>> is not a smoking gun. If you do not want to have this trace then use a
>> public IP somewhere, then move on.
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/12/2010 10:24, "marc garrett" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Angles On Anonymous.
>>> 
>>> "A number of readers are sending in links related to Anonymous, the
>>> Internet phenomenon < don't call them a group < behind the controversial
>>> DDoS attacks on commercial entities that fail to support WikiLeaks. The
>>> best insight into Anonymous comes from the Economist's Babbage blogger,
>>> who hung out in one of their IRC channels
>>> (http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2010/12/more_wikileaks). Reader
>>> nk497 points out that UK users looking to join Anonymous's DDoS army
>>> should be aware they could face a jail term of up to two years
>>> 
> (http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/security/363523/wikileaks-protest-tool-could-carr
>>> y-two-year-jail-stretch);
>>> simply downloading the LOIC software used in the DDoSing could suffice
>>> to earn a conviction. One 16-year-old has been arrested
>>> 
> (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/12/first-arrest-made-in-wikileak
>>> s-revenge-attacks.ars)
>>> in The Netherlands and is charged with participating in the DDoS. Reader
>>> ancientribe sends in coverage of a claim by one security outfit that
>>> several existing criminal botnets have joined forces
>>> 
> (http://www.darkreading.com/database-security/167901020/security/attacks-breac
>>> hes/228800076/botnet-operators-set-to-join-operation-payback.html)
>>> with Anonymous's Operation: Payback. And reader Stoobalou notes a
>>> Thing.co.uk story on a manifesto of sorts
>>> 
> (http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/12/10/who-are-anonymous-and-what-do-they-want/)
>>> that purports to come from "ANON OPS," even though Anonymous disclaims
>>> any central spokesperson or entity - press release here
>>> (http://dump.no/files/467072ba2a42/ANONOPS_The_Press_Release.pdf) PDF."
>>>  From Slashdot.org
>>> 
>>> wishing you well.
>>> 
>>> marc
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