Hi Simon,

Testing the law is definitely not a thing any individual would relish 
right now...

marc
> Yes, that's why I suggested not using your own IP, at least not without
> masking (Tor). It will be traceable. However, it is open to question whether
> a court could secure a conviction on the evidence of IP traces alone.
> Personally, I wouldn't want to test the law.
>
> Best
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 12/12/2010 12:26, "marc garrett"<[email protected]>  wrote:
>
>> Hi Simon&  all,
>>
>> Just getting back to the ealier part of the discussion here, relating to
>> the Anonymous hacktivist movement who have been fighting for wikileaks.
>>
>> Found this info on Slashdot.org this morning which is pretty interesting...
>>
>> "For a number of days the websites of MasterCard, Visa, PayPal and
>> others are attacked by a group of WikiLeaks supporters (hacktivists).
>> Although the group calls itself 'Anonymous,' researchers at the DACS
>> group of the University of Twente (UT), the Netherlands, discovered that
>> these hacktivists are easy traceable (PDF)
>> (http://www.simpleweb.org/reports/loic-report.pdf), and therefore
>> anything but anonymous
>> (http://www.utwente.nl/ewi/dacs/news/archive/2010/wikileaks.doc/index.html).
>> The LOIC (Low Orbit Ion Cannon) software, which is used by the
>> hacktivists, was analyzed by UT researchers, who concluded that the
>> attacks generated by this tool are relatively simple and unveil the
>> identity of the attacker. If hacktivists use this tool directly from
>> their own machines, instead of via anonymization networks such as Tor,
>> the Internet address of the attacker is included in every Internet
>> message being transmitted. In the tools no sophisticated techniques are
>> used, such as IP-spoofing, in which the source address of others is
>> used, or reflected attacks, in which attacks go via third party systems.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/394t5ub
>>
>> wishing you well.
>>
>> marc
>>
>>
>>> You can get 2 years for downloading DOS software and 10 years for
>> using it.
>>> People are going to be prosecuted and the courts will be pressured by
>>> government to be tough with their sentencing.
>>>
>>> If anybody wants to be involved with anon-ops I would recommend using a
>>> dedicated Mac with nothing important on the hard drive. Install and run
>>> Parallels and run the DOS software within that. Make your contribution to
>>> the activity. Then reformat your hard drive using a destructive wipe
>> mode.
>>> That will cover your tracks. As Mac OS cannot run the DOS software
>> you have
>>> a good defence - "I don't have a PC!" (who would have thought,
>> another good
>>> reason to buy a Mac).
>>>
>>> The only evidence the court would have will be datalogs from your IP.
>> This
>>> is not a smoking gun. If you do not want to have this trace then use a
>>> public IP somewhere, then move on.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/12/2010 10:24, "marc garrett"<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>> Angles On Anonymous.
>>>>
>>>> "A number of readers are sending in links related to Anonymous, the
>>>> Internet phenomenon<  don't call them a group<  behind the controversial
>>>> DDoS attacks on commercial entities that fail to support WikiLeaks. The
>>>> best insight into Anonymous comes from the Economist's Babbage blogger,
>>>> who hung out in one of their IRC channels
>>>> (http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2010/12/more_wikileaks). Reader
>>>> nk497 points out that UK users looking to join Anonymous's DDoS army
>>>> should be aware they could face a jail term of up to two years
>>>>
>> (http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/security/363523/wikileaks-protest-tool-could-carr
>>>> y-two-year-jail-stretch);
>>>> simply downloading the LOIC software used in the DDoSing could suffice
>>>> to earn a conviction. One 16-year-old has been arrested
>>>>
>> (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/12/first-arrest-made-in-wikileak
>>>> s-revenge-attacks.ars)
>>>> in The Netherlands and is charged with participating in the DDoS. Reader
>>>> ancientribe sends in coverage of a claim by one security outfit that
>>>> several existing criminal botnets have joined forces
>>>>
>> (http://www.darkreading.com/database-security/167901020/security/attacks-breac
>>>> hes/228800076/botnet-operators-set-to-join-operation-payback.html)
>>>> with Anonymous's Operation: Payback. And reader Stoobalou notes a
>>>> Thing.co.uk story on a manifesto of sorts
>>>>
>> (http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/12/10/who-are-anonymous-and-what-do-they-want/)
>>>> that purports to come from "ANON OPS," even though Anonymous disclaims
>>>> any central spokesperson or entity - press release here
>>>> (http://dump.no/files/467072ba2a42/ANONOPS_The_Press_Release.pdf) PDF."
>>>>   From Slashdot.org
>>>>
>>>> wishing you well.
>>>>
>>>> marc
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