...Gilbert & George are artists whose 'golden time' was at the end of 60-ies...and...so on... until recent time...meanwhile art became something meta-aesthetic...one part's ''Foundation art'' who was paid from sponsors who want to see how particular 'art' problem could influence in some specific society/for example in society in transition/...some foundations like 'ProHelvetia' , 'Soros open society fond'...etc...trough form of 'social research','workshops' and similar ideologematic activism try to establish kind of culture close to one which they thing it's proper for that/particular/society...artist as indivudal,Subject of his own art became mouse in one great laboratory caled''Foundation Art''...for they *work*those,so called 'artist' get some $ depend from which country they are/maybe you cold remember few Bulgarian artist who were popular during the 90-ies/at least in Balcan/...now we can't even remember their names...one of them claim that ''he is best artist in Bulgaria because he 'make' more than 100 000$ from different foundation with his participation in some regional exhibitions''/that's also art,oh,yes!/...now he hardly can remember his own name...he do his job,Bulgaria became part of EU and nobody need his art anymore...more interesting's case with ''Corporation Art''...Marina Abramovic was interesting artist who start carrier in Belgrade during late 60-ies...every sense that time she was good performing artist but she/in her word:'spend much more time siting on the phone and collecting money than working art'...all that's chan'ge in one exhibition in Sarajevo in mid 90-ies during the civil war in former Yugoslavia..she give her work and her carrier from one of good/even very good/example of 'Foundation Art' became part of ''Corporation art''...it's not so hard to make that small step...just give up from your people and take another flag...but it wasn't act of leaving her art,or make it better...i find her work in last two decade interesting in one level-it's very fanny...i mean realy funny in sense i laugh when i look at her work...it's still art..of course...why not...but who is going to show pain,solitude,desperate/?/...i'm sure Marina is not the one... so...Gilbert & George are Buddhas of ''Corporation Art'' same as Damien,Hockney,...name them...of course there's people who still believe in art but it's better for them to change name of their work...instead 'art' they could name that as 'techne'...it's not important to make REVOLUTION on the first place...for beginning it's good to make revolution in language of revolution/you could replace word 'revolution' with word 'art'/techne/...MANIK...MARCH...2012... ----- Original Message ----- From: "marc garrett" <[email protected]> To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about Gilbert & George in the Evening Standard yesterday
Hi Dave, Why anyone would listen to or even give their opinions any weight is beyond me. I think it's obvious that G&G are elitists, and would not wish to lose any income from their bourgeois client base. They are on the side of the exploiters - it's good business sense as far as they are concerned. Who gives a shit whether they work from 5. am or not - many work just as hard for much less, and are losing their jobs, communities, and much more - they are not relevant. wishing you well. marc > http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/arts/visual-arts/wed-rather-side-with-the-bankers-than-some-vegan-protester-twit-on-benefits-say-gilbert-and-george-7537242.html > "By the mid-Seventies they were already a fully fledged double-act. > Sexually libertarian, revolutionary even, they have always been > politically conservative and are harsh judges of those who do not > share their work ethic. They both dismiss the St Paul’s protesters as > “hippies” and “idiots” and would rather side with the bankers than > “some vegan twit on benefits”, they think Boris Johnson is “a > wonderful modern person” and believe fiercely in “making money”. > “We make our art, we try to sell it. We are doing it day and night, we > are here at 5am trying to do it every day for the last 40 years. > That’s fantastic, no?” says Gilbert." > > > I think ... If their work is supposed to be some sort of comment on > the world around them, then it's very surface/ un - informed. They > live a stone's throw from The City and yet appear to be completely > oblivious - and disinterested - in what's going on. > > dave > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > -- Other Info: Furtherfield - A living, breathing, thriving network http://www.furtherfield.org - for art, technology and social change since 1997 Also - Furtherfield Gallery& Social Space: http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery About Furtherfield: http://www.furtherfield.org/content/about Netbehaviour - Networked Artists List Community. http://www.netbehaviour.org http://identi.ca/furtherfield http://twitter.com/furtherfield _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
