G&G have been part of the corporate art world since at least the late 70's, even if they didn't know it (I think they did). As that world has become more obscenely commercial those associated with it have acquire the same patina (of shit). Some artists bailed out of that horror as they saw what was happening. Other's chose to remain in the system. The former might have kept some of their dignity whilst some of the latter made a lot of money. What is one's dignity worth?
best Simon On 14 Mar 2012, at 23:12, manik wrote: > ...it's not insignificant to tell that 40 years ago G&G weren't part of some > 'corporate art'...world was different and beside CIA art/see M.Andre > memories and interviews/most of artist were naive enough to believe that art > could change The World...but power of spin doctors was faster than huge > and,in hierarchy,conservative 'world of art'...corporatation 'see' faster > and better because they bought best people in that branch...G&G became > symbol of sexual hipper-freedom/in compare with hippie sex. > revolution/...same as Hearst take death and pills,body of death and > 'medicine body'/beside 'body of low-you must identify you self in quart of > low,body of termination/with numbers and lists/...and so on...'corporative > art' make mental simulation of danger,body of animal/ Oleg Kulik- > man-dog/...no matter is he state or corporate artist he have specific rule > in system of power distribution...Ai Wei.. make fake ancient jar with cola > sign on it and with this work he melt West and Chinese art in something > new...beside-that new is more 'Neo-Modern' in 'look' than post-modern...all > those things belong to 'power of corporation/of course you should considered > some state as *corporation*,why not/...idealistic projection about artist in > cave who reach nirvana/art by meditation is really story for kids...like > mine who picking from soil some new and exclusive issue will find reflexion > in some art form...maybe last two genial painters/people who make miracle > with colors and brashes-L.Freud and Basquiat are dead/...theres so many > interesting artists who are very good with what they do/Chinese who have > people who laugh,with same expression on face,Yoyoi, Koons...and many > other...world today is full of good artists and good art...but not more than > that...but that *more* was from Gioto,or Rublev something we looking for in > art...MANIK...MARCH...2012... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob Myers" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:02 PM > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about Gilbert & George in the Evening > Standard yesterday > > > On 14/03/12 12:03, dave miller wrote: >> Here's an article arguing that G&G are not fascists: >> http://www.newmediastudies.com/art/gilbert.htm >> >> and an interview "We are searching for the truth" >> http://www.jca-online.com/gilbertandgeorge.html > > I really, really, really do believe that they are acting, and that they > decided to do so four decades ago. I admire their constancy. And I think > that they are aesthetically interesting because of their social > aesthetics. This is perilously close to them being interesting because > of their politics, but I plead irony in their defence. > > I also believe that this is not in any way above criticism given how the > world has changed in the last four decades. > > - Rob. > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > Simon Biggs [email protected] http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ @SimonBiggsUK skype: simonbiggsuk [email protected] Edinburgh College of Art, University of Edinburgh http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ http://www.elmcip.net/ http://www.movingtargets.co.uk/
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