On 04/03/15 16:19, Randall Packer wrote:
It is my personal opinion that social media promises, at least in part
a new look at the collective forms that emerged in the 1960s & 1970s.
I don’t want to go into a full-blown lecture here (my students get
enough of that), but the link between the Happening and social media
platforms such as Twitter, Facebook, Tumblr, the mailing lists, etc.,
suggest there is plenty of creative room for improvisation and
audience engagement + interaction + remix in this form of
participatory, collective narrative via the network.
I have heard eminent artists and theorists make this argument before and
it feels all wrong to me.
Social medial platforms are designed by commercial companies to elicit
very particular types of normalising exchange between masses of people.
From the perspective of the platform providers, the purpose of the
users actions and interactions is to squirt lucrative data.
The functioning of Happenings and Intermedial exchange was to detourn,
restructure, or re-make social relations- if only for a short duration.
I don't see any general connection with mass social media usage.
There have been media art projects that critique and expose the logic of
the platforms. Moddr_'s Web 2.0 Suicide Machine
<http://suicidemachine.org/>, Commodify Us <https://commodify.us/>,.
Marc interviewed them here
http://www.furtherfield.org/features/reviews/commodify-us-our-data-our-terms
This is why Furtherfield bangs on about the importance of Free and Open
culture (in arts and software)
<http://p2pfoundation.net/World_of_Free_and_Open_Source_Art>
On 05/03/15 12:20, Randall Packer wrote:
>>>> "i mean co-authoring in a way that they can insert their own
creativity & alter/influence the work.”
@Helen: I am still interested in the idea that social media (and that
includes this list) is in fact an intermedial exchange & process of
co-authorship, that we are in fact, together,
authoring/constructing/generating a collective body of knowledge via
this exchange. If you were to go back and read through the archives of
NetBehaviour I am certain there is a “cultural record” (to use the
words of Vannevar Bush) with a narrative flow that captures a
“story” of the time and place and people involved. I consider social
media (generally and perhaps idealistically speaking) to be
expressive, performative (not proconsumative), and participatory in
equal measure, narrative in a non-hierarchical structure, a theater of
words and ideas.
that's quite nice :)
On 4/03/15 5:09 16PM, Patrick Lichty wrote:
How about “Performience”?
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varley jamieson
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"prosumer" is not a word for actor+audience, it's a word for
producer+consumer, which is about product and consumption, rather
than relationship & experience.
i have long hunted for a good word for this - for audiences that are
participating in a really creative way in a work - & i don't just
mean the "interactivity" of pressing a button or something like that.
i mean co-authoring in a way that they can insert their own
creativity & alter/influence the work. i have written about the
"intermedial audience", as a way to understand the role of the
audience in cyberformance & potentially other digital art contexts.
The concept of intermediality offers a way to approach an audience
that is as unfinished and (r)evolutionary as the work it is engaging
with. It upgrades the passive spectator to an integral position
within cyberformance, without relinquishing the fundamental gap
between performer and spectator. At the same time, intermediality
acknowledges the mental multitasking that cyberformance demands of
its audience and the paradigm shift that is forced onto those more
accustomed to the traditional codes of audience behaviour.
(this was written 8 years ago & perhaps needs updating now given then
increased possibilities for audience participation/contribution.)
i don't think the intermedial audience are "players of equal
measure", & i'm not sure if this really exists (when an artist or
group has conceived the work or created the context for it except
maybe in gaming?).
h : )
On 4/03/15 5:02 28AM, Karl Heinz Jeron wrote:
Hello,
there is a word for actor and audience in the social media realm:
prosumer!
And hey if at all this is postdramatic theatre.
Followers equals audience? I don't think so.
Cheers
KH
2015-03-04 0:05 GMT+01:00 isabel brison <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Hello,
I can't really agree:
When we sit in the theater, we are essentially a receiver of
information that is passed from the stage to the audience.
But in the world of social media, we are all actors on the
stage: the fourth wall is erased, the proscenium dissolves,
there are no lights to turn down, the suspension of disbelief
is revised, as information (or lines) are passed not just
from the one to many, but from everyone to everyone.
Most of us are audience most of the time, as actors need audience
to be actors. And what's the difference between a screen and a
stage? except that on a screen it is not always considered bad
manners to join in the act.
And some of us deliberately choose to be audience, others act
occasionally, some act as a hobby and others professionally (
though I'm not sure that acting is a good analogy at all for
social interaction - there should be a word for actor and
audience all in one, and possibly for combinations of different
amounts of one and the other).
how do we insert ourselves into this story, not as
receivers, but as players of equal measure,
Tweet! Retweet! Respond! - Seriously, that account only has 14
followers. How can it act at all in the absence of audience? Is
it a bad actor? If we're all actors then how many of us are bad
actors and should consider a change of carreer?
Oh and a funny thing: I followed the link above and it gave me an
error. It's really @The_People_Came
<https://twitter.com/The_People_Came>. Was that on purpose I wonder?
Cheers
Isabel - semi-professional lurker
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