yes, i agree randall :) On 5/03/15 1:20 33PM, Randall Packer wrote: > >>>> "i mean co-authoring in a way that they can insert their own > creativity & alter/influence the work.” > > @Helen: I am still interested in the idea that social media (and that > includes this list) is in fact an intermedial exchange & process of > co-authorship, that we are in fact, together, > authoring/constructing/generating a collective body of knowledge via > this exchange. If you were to go back and read through the archives of > NetBehaviour I am certain there is a “cultural record” (to use the > words of Vannevar Bush) with a narrative flow that captures > a “story” of the time and place and people involved. I consider social > media (generally and perhaps idealistically speaking) to be > expressive, performative (not proconsumative), and participatory in > equal measure, narrative in a non-hierarchical structure, a theater of > words and ideas. > > > that's quite nice :) > > On 4/03/15 5:09 16PM, Patrick Lichty wrote: >> >> How about “Performience”? >> >> >> >> *From:*[email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *helen >> varley jamieson >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 04, 2015 9:45 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [NetBehaviour] my Netartizen contribution >> >> >> >> "prosumer" is not a word for actor+audience, it's a word for >> producer+consumer, which is about product and consumption, rather >> than relationship & experience. >> >> i have long hunted for a good word for this - for audiences that are >> participating in a really creative way in a work - & i don't just >> mean the "interactivity" of pressing a button or something like that. >> i mean co-authoring in a way that they can insert their own >> creativity & alter/influence the work. i have written about the >> "intermedial audience", as a way to understand the role of the >> audience in cyberformance & potentially other digital art contexts. >> >> The concept of intermediality offers a way to approach an audience >> that is as unfinished and (r)evolutionary as the work it is engaging >> with. It upgrades the passive spectator to an integral position >> within cyberformance, without relinquishing the fundamental gap >> between performer and spectator. At the same time, intermediality >> acknowledges the mental multitasking that cyberformance demands of >> its audience and the paradigm shift that is forced onto those more >> accustomed to the traditional codes of audience behaviour. >> >> (this was written 8 years ago & perhaps needs updating now given then >> increased possibilities for audience participation/contribution.) >> >> i don't think the intermedial audience are "players of equal >> measure", & i'm not sure if this really exists (when an artist or >> group has conceived the work or created the context for it except >> maybe in gaming?). >> >> h : ) >> >> On 4/03/15 5:02 28AM, Karl Heinz Jeron wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> there is a word for actor and audience in the social media realm: >> prosumer! >> >> And hey if at all this is postdramatic theatre. >> >> Followers equals audience? I don't think so. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> KH >> >> >> >> 2015-03-04 0:05 GMT+01:00 isabel brison <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I can't really agree: >> >> >> >> >> >> When we sit in the theater, we are essentially a receiver of >> information that is passed from the stage to the audience. >> But in the world of social media, we are all actors on the >> stage: the fourth wall is erased, the proscenium dissolves, >> there are no lights to turn down, the suspension of disbelief >> is revised, as information (or lines) are passed not just >> from the one to many, but from everyone to everyone. >> >> >> >> Most of us are audience most of the time, as actors need audience >> to be actors. And what's the difference between a screen and a >> stage? except that on a screen it is not always considered bad >> manners to join in the act. >> >> And some of us deliberately choose to be audience, others act >> occasionally, some act as a hobby and others professionally ( >> though I'm not sure that acting is a good analogy at all for >> social interaction - there should be a word for actor and >> audience all in one, and possibly for combinations of different >> amounts of one and the other). >> >> >> >> >> >> how do we insert ourselves into this story, not as >> receivers, but as players of equal measure, >> >> >> >> Tweet! Retweet! Respond! - Seriously, that account only has 14 >> followers. How can it act at all in the absence of audience? Is >> it a bad actor? If we're all actors then how many of us are bad >> actors and should consider a change of carreer? >> >> >> >> Oh and a funny thing: I followed the link above and it gave me an >> error. It's really @The_People_Came >> <https://twitter.com/The_People_Came>. Was that on purpose I wonder? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Isabel - semi-professional lurker >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://isabelbrison.com >> >> >> >> http://tellthemachines.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> >> >> -- >> helen varley jamieson >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://www.creative-catalyst.com >> http://www.talesfromthetowpath.net >> http://www.upstage.org.nz >> > > -- > helen varley jamieson > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://www.creative-catalyst.com > http://www.talesfromthetowpath.net > http://www.upstage.org.nz > _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing > list [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
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