i can't enter any text but the responses are nice On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Bjørn Magnhildøen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi - > > "what it does when it does what it's supposed to do" :) > > indeed, that's just about it. > > i mean, an open semantic form, would be, given the loop in your statement, > where 'meaning' comes in, biting its tail. > is meaning a loop? or is it open? is it a warm chewing away the dirt > around itself? what about the gestures of the creature, do they have any > meaning? > alphabetic language might be likened to military commands, pitched > rational and effective, building or destroying empires. > beneath that are gestures, body, domains without handles, all kinds of, > call them languages, since we're biological and anything we do is language > as opposed to say random quantum events. it would be really hard for us to > do something 'random' which wouldn't link up to our specific phenomenology. > this, only to say that an 'open semantic form' is just a looser form of > meaning-production, deliberately avoiding the ... and try establishing a > poetical - the word - notion of ... not that 'poetical' is at stake, but > how would a feral child communicate, given its history? can we imagine > other types of languages, less formal,more intuitive than sign and glyph. > so there's asemic writing, for humans, or for cats and dogs. enter the > ouroboros, when does it have meaning, when does the semantic form bite its > tail? to be sure, we do not know even that it's a language. does it > decode?does it have to decode? ah, much we want to decode... the > mysteries...if only to stage them again as theater, doubled form and double > negation. the 'O' stands untouched. i'm writing in your hand instead. > > the use i imagined of the asemic chat is like this chat log > http://noemata.net/chatasemic/chat/1426628136.html > where several humans, or reloads of, are chatting, with a bot on the side. > > but you see there are others like this > http://noemata.net/chatasemic/chat/1426706990.html > where one part is mute, only the bot is gesturing wildly, so we can > imagine the human is actively imagining what it's saying. > > then i like this one also > http://noemata.net/chatasemic/chat/1426624996.html > which is a reframing of language+ > > i don't know if this answered your question.i thoughtof a primitive > gestural communication, somehow in an absurd chat-form,questioning language > and what we do with it. how could it not be social? keeping it simple (and > stupid), there's some reflective space there, the context is already full, > we arefull, so often we don't need much to catalyst. lot of text is used to > prop up holes in the wall ... anyway, at some level there's a bridge > between language and art, or state your own river. > > > thanks for response, appreciated > > bjørn > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 8:34 PM, ruth catlow <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Thanks for posting : ) >> >> It does something on Firefox for linux - I type, it scrawls (rather >> charmingly, like a human who doesn't care that I can't read its >> handwriting). >> >> but what it does, doesn't tell me what "A wordless open semantic form of >> social interaction between humans and bot" >> what do the words 'semantic' and 'social' mean. >> >> please could you say more about what it does when it does what it's >> supposed to do? >> >> cheers >> Ruth >> >> >> On 17/03/15 18:47, Bjørn Magnhildøen wrote: >> >> i get some response it's not working on mac, not sure if safari has >> complete html5 canvas drawing support... haven't cross-checked on >> browsers.... still, empty dialogues create visuals... >> >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Alan Sondheim <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> I played with this online after seeing it on Google+ - it's amazing and >>> graphically really interesting! >>> >>> On Tue, 17 Mar 2015, Bj?rn Magnhild?en wrote: >>> >>> A wordless open semantic form of social interaction between humans and >>>> bot >>>> http://noemata.net/chatasemic/ >>>> >>>> [human_bot.png] >>>> human + bot >>>> >>>> [3humans_bot.png] >>>> 3 humans + bot >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> == >>> email archive http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ >>> web http://www.alansondheim.org / cell 718-813-3285 >>> music: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ >>> current text http://www.alansondheim.org/tc.txt >>> == >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing >> [email protected]http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> > > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >
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