and i guess you have tried to draw also? sorry, it might not work cross-browser this, thanks for trying
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Mab MacMoragh <[email protected]> wrote: > i can't enter any text but the responses are nice > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Bjørn Magnhildøen <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi - >> >> "what it does when it does what it's supposed to do" :) >> >> indeed, that's just about it. >> >> i mean, an open semantic form, would be, given the loop in your >> statement, where 'meaning' comes in, biting its tail. >> is meaning a loop? or is it open? is it a warm chewing away the dirt >> around itself? what about the gestures of the creature, do they have any >> meaning? >> alphabetic language might be likened to military commands, pitched >> rational and effective, building or destroying empires. >> beneath that are gestures, body, domains without handles, all kinds of, >> call them languages, since we're biological and anything we do is language >> as opposed to say random quantum events. it would be really hard for us to >> do something 'random' which wouldn't link up to our specific phenomenology. >> this, only to say that an 'open semantic form' is just a looser form of >> meaning-production, deliberately avoiding the ... and try establishing a >> poetical - the word - notion of ... not that 'poetical' is at stake, but >> how would a feral child communicate, given its history? can we imagine >> other types of languages, less formal,more intuitive than sign and glyph. >> so there's asemic writing, for humans, or for cats and dogs. enter the >> ouroboros, when does it have meaning, when does the semantic form bite its >> tail? to be sure, we do not know even that it's a language. does it >> decode?does it have to decode? ah, much we want to decode... the >> mysteries...if only to stage them again as theater, doubled form and double >> negation. the 'O' stands untouched. i'm writing in your hand instead. >> >> the use i imagined of the asemic chat is like this chat log >> http://noemata.net/chatasemic/chat/1426628136.html >> where several humans, or reloads of, are chatting, with a bot on the side. >> >> but you see there are others like this >> http://noemata.net/chatasemic/chat/1426706990.html >> where one part is mute, only the bot is gesturing wildly, so we can >> imagine the human is actively imagining what it's saying. >> >> then i like this one also >> http://noemata.net/chatasemic/chat/1426624996.html >> which is a reframing of language+ >> >> i don't know if this answered your question.i thoughtof a primitive >> gestural communication, somehow in an absurd chat-form,questioning language >> and what we do with it. how could it not be social? keeping it simple (and >> stupid), there's some reflective space there, the context is already full, >> we arefull, so often we don't need much to catalyst. lot of text is used to >> prop up holes in the wall ... anyway, at some level there's a bridge >> between language and art, or state your own river. >> >> >> thanks for response, appreciated >> >> bjørn >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 8:34 PM, ruth catlow < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for posting : ) >>> >>> It does something on Firefox for linux - I type, it scrawls (rather >>> charmingly, like a human who doesn't care that I can't read its >>> handwriting). >>> >>> but what it does, doesn't tell me what "A wordless open semantic form >>> of social interaction between humans and bot" >>> what do the words 'semantic' and 'social' mean. >>> >>> please could you say more about what it does when it does what it's >>> supposed to do? >>> >>> cheers >>> Ruth >>> >>> >>> On 17/03/15 18:47, Bjørn Magnhildøen wrote: >>> >>> i get some response it's not working on mac, not sure if safari has >>> complete html5 canvas drawing support... haven't cross-checked on >>> browsers.... still, empty dialogues create visuals... >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Alan Sondheim <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I played with this online after seeing it on Google+ - it's amazing and >>>> graphically really interesting! >>>> >>>> On Tue, 17 Mar 2015, Bj?rn Magnhild?en wrote: >>>> >>>> A wordless open semantic form of social interaction between humans >>>>> and bot >>>>> http://noemata.net/chatasemic/ >>>>> >>>>> [human_bot.png] >>>>> human + bot >>>>> >>>>> [3humans_bot.png] >>>>> 3 humans + bot >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> == >>>> email archive http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ >>>> web http://www.alansondheim.org / cell 718-813-3285 >>>> music: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ >>>> current text http://www.alansondheim.org/tc.txt >>>> == >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing >>> [email protected]http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> > > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >
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