i am using a mac, you had said it didn't work for macs but i tried anyway and love the bot's little flight-paths, like butterflies- maybe i'll make something with those :)
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 5:33 AM, Bjørn Magnhildøen <[email protected]> wrote: > and i guess you have tried to draw also? sorry, it might not work > cross-browser this, thanks for trying > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Mab MacMoragh <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> i can't enter any text but the responses are nice >> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Bjørn Magnhildøen <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi - >>> >>> "what it does when it does what it's supposed to do" :) >>> >>> indeed, that's just about it. >>> >>> i mean, an open semantic form, would be, given the loop in your >>> statement, where 'meaning' comes in, biting its tail. >>> is meaning a loop? or is it open? is it a warm chewing away the dirt >>> around itself? what about the gestures of the creature, do they have any >>> meaning? >>> alphabetic language might be likened to military commands, pitched >>> rational and effective, building or destroying empires. >>> beneath that are gestures, body, domains without handles, all kinds of, >>> call them languages, since we're biological and anything we do is language >>> as opposed to say random quantum events. it would be really hard for us to >>> do something 'random' which wouldn't link up to our specific phenomenology. >>> this, only to say that an 'open semantic form' is just a looser form of >>> meaning-production, deliberately avoiding the ... and try establishing a >>> poetical - the word - notion of ... not that 'poetical' is at stake, but >>> how would a feral child communicate, given its history? can we imagine >>> other types of languages, less formal,more intuitive than sign and glyph. >>> so there's asemic writing, for humans, or for cats and dogs. enter the >>> ouroboros, when does it have meaning, when does the semantic form bite its >>> tail? to be sure, we do not know even that it's a language. does it >>> decode?does it have to decode? ah, much we want to decode... the >>> mysteries...if only to stage them again as theater, doubled form and double >>> negation. the 'O' stands untouched. i'm writing in your hand instead. >>> >>> the use i imagined of the asemic chat is like this chat log >>> http://noemata.net/chatasemic/chat/1426628136.html >>> where several humans, or reloads of, are chatting, with a bot on the >>> side. >>> >>> but you see there are others like this >>> http://noemata.net/chatasemic/chat/1426706990.html >>> where one part is mute, only the bot is gesturing wildly, so we can >>> imagine the human is actively imagining what it's saying. >>> >>> then i like this one also >>> http://noemata.net/chatasemic/chat/1426624996.html >>> which is a reframing of language+ >>> >>> i don't know if this answered your question.i thoughtof a primitive >>> gestural communication, somehow in an absurd chat-form,questioning language >>> and what we do with it. how could it not be social? keeping it simple (and >>> stupid), there's some reflective space there, the context is already full, >>> we arefull, so often we don't need much to catalyst. lot of text is used to >>> prop up holes in the wall ... anyway, at some level there's a bridge >>> between language and art, or state your own river. >>> >>> >>> thanks for response, appreciated >>> >>> bjørn >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 8:34 PM, ruth catlow < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for posting : ) >>>> >>>> It does something on Firefox for linux - I type, it scrawls (rather >>>> charmingly, like a human who doesn't care that I can't read its >>>> handwriting). >>>> >>>> but what it does, doesn't tell me what "A wordless open semantic form >>>> of social interaction between humans and bot" >>>> what do the words 'semantic' and 'social' mean. >>>> >>>> please could you say more about what it does when it does what it's >>>> supposed to do? >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> Ruth >>>> >>>> >>>> On 17/03/15 18:47, Bjørn Magnhildøen wrote: >>>> >>>> i get some response it's not working on mac, not sure if safari has >>>> complete html5 canvas drawing support... haven't cross-checked on >>>> browsers.... still, empty dialogues create visuals... >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Alan Sondheim <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I played with this online after seeing it on Google+ - it's amazing >>>>> and graphically really interesting! >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 17 Mar 2015, Bj?rn Magnhild?en wrote: >>>>> >>>>> A wordless open semantic form of social interaction between humans >>>>>> and bot >>>>>> http://noemata.net/chatasemic/ >>>>>> >>>>>> [human_bot.png] >>>>>> human + bot >>>>>> >>>>>> [3humans_bot.png] >>>>>> 3 humans + bot >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> == >>>>> email archive http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ >>>>> web http://www.alansondheim.org / cell 718-813-3285 >>>>> music: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ >>>>> current text http://www.alansondheim.org/tc.txt >>>>> == >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NetBehaviour mailing >>>> [email protected]http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> > > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >
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