Alan + Maudlin + Turnt Up To 11 =
>  but it seems a useless and quixotic endeavor occupying almost 22 years
of my life,
Which is a Troll because Alan is Never Maudlin.

The first time I encountered Alan's website I thought of him as brave. I do
not buy many peoples' fantasy of living 'off the grid'. "Off the mac
grid?", I would ask them.

The alpha betizing is ornament on your site.The beams are in place - your
archive is more stable than any I have seen. Natalie Jeremijenko, for
instance, does not have an archive which can be catalogued and indexed by
Git.

At some point there will be a zip of content - a dissemination to the
finest online monument builders. I doubt it would happen in second life,
there would be a celebration there of course, but the main bit, the part
that matters, would happen later. Your words, mixed with others, inseminate
an important conversation. Beyond that, your words, as an archive, sherpa
generations through trouble-wrought lives.

time withstanding,
Bishop



On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Alan Sondheim <sondh...@panix.com> wrote:

>
>
> i have similar feelings, but working starker at
> http://www.alansondheim.org - placing everything in text files with urls
> to audio/visual; at the moment i'm on "tg.txt" having gone through the
> alphabet several times over. it's an arcane system which unfortunately
> makes it difficult and probably useless for everyone except me; on the
> other hand, the 20,000 pages of text and references there are fairly
> complete. i started this in 1994 with what was called then net0.txt and
> it's continued daily ever since. at least grep and other commands allow me
> to search themes etc. fairly quickly. but it seems a useless and quixotic
> endeavor occupying almost 22 years of my life, as far as anyyone else is
> concerned.
>
>
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Randall Packer wrote:
>
>  Interesting conversation about artistic output into the social media
>> sphere.
>>
>> I am obsessively committed to my blog:
>> http://www.randallpacker.com/
>>
>> And have been for about 10 years.
>>
>> Why? Not so much because of the social nature of the medium, but because
>> it is a database. It is my journal, my personal record, my own repository
>> of ideas and media. My blog is a springboard for endless project ideas,
>> most of which will never be realized, but they are documented with a
>> system of taxonomies that allows this endless torrent of ideas to be
>> retrieved and reused.
>>
>> I have a great fear of forgetting: that ideas will simply disappear in the
>> ether. It is why Ted Nelson helped conceive the Web. This, in my opinion,
>> is the great crisis in an increasingly complex global information culture.
>> As an artist with a blog I have some control over memory and access, and I
>> use it incessantly to track and organize and filter my thinking.
>>
>> I would be lost without my blog, which is why I have become somewhat of a
>> disciple of Wordpress. With my blog, I am empowered to become the
>> archivist of my very own Library of Congress.
>>
>> Randall
>>
>>
>> On 6/21/15, 6:37 PM, "BishopZ" <xchic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  I am by no means a Pinterest advocate, but I do have a survey question.
>>>
>>> Many of us fancy ourselves as artists - we like to make decisions,
>>> even if it is only about our own work.
>>>
>>> Online digital properties, especially the top 50 trafficked on the
>>> internet, differentiate themselves, not by content, but by features.
>>> Pinterest's killer feature is delete. Compared to the competition,
>>> Pinterest is about curation, and thus they are the only mass online
>>> medium to, not just allow, but enable and promote deletion.
>>>
>>> The business model of nearly every large internet company is to juice
>>> every individual for-ever-y ounce of click-y-ness and like-y-ness they
>>> might have. Soak up every drop of interaction and use it to build a
>>> profile which can be sold. While Pinterest's business model is very
>>> similar, it is slightly different in a rather interesting way.
>>>
>>> Pinterest helps you boil things down, and as an artist that can be a
>>> very helpful service. Regardless of whether you use the service, you
>>> must register for an account to observe other people's curated sets.
>>>
>>> My question is this:
>>>
>>> Do you have a Pinterest account?
>>>
>>> How do you feel about the trade-off between blogs and wikis?
>>>
>>> How do you feel about the fact that your activity on social networks
>>> is monitored and sold to companies whose sole interest is to
>>> manipulate and corrupt you?
>>>
>>> Would you rather have no memory, or have to constantly prune?
>>>
>>> In appreciation,
>>> Bz
>>>
>>>
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