Can you say more?
On Sun, 24 Apr 2016, Pall Thayer wrote:
Alan: But isn't that the whole idea behind left-acceleration?
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 9:46 AM Alan Sondheim <sondh...@panix.com> wrote:
I agree and the problem precisely is acceleration; the biosphere
doesn't
adapt well to accelerated change, as the plights of sealions,
walrus,
migrant birds, ocean lives, indicate. If anything, a form of
holding-back,
learning to listen, listening, is necessary. The fundamental
problem I
think is that we're blind when it comes to ecosystems, energy,
micro-
biomes, and so forth. The fundamentals of mycology are being
rewritten as
we discuss, and what's emerging are whole universes of
ignorance.
Meanwhile we plow ahead, destroying the planet. It seems to me
that
accelerationism is so fundamentally human-based (perhaps
man-based for all
that), that it really overlooks collateral damage. And what do
we do, for
example, with the increasingly violent drought in the Mid-East
which is
exacerbating warfares and genocides? This needs slow, dirty work
to deal
with it, culture theory which listens, not only to humans, but
to life and
lives everywhere -
Alan
On Sun, 24 Apr 2016, ruth catlow wrote:
> Yes Michael, and this is profoundly poetic.
>
> All human traditions, values and communities are dissolved in
an acid bath
> of everlasting agitation and uncertainty.
>
> What this passage does not describe though is a situation
where the wider
> ecologies of non-human planetary life, upon which we depend,
are also
> fatally eroded.
> We need to sense and engage not just the real relations with
"our kind"
> (expanded to engage people and perspectives of all kinds (YES
Gretta!)), but
> beyond, with other species, and materials.
>
> This must include a correction to systems of dominance - to
which Simon
> points with his example of improper use of neuro-science to
validate the
> 'use' of humans.
>
>
>
>
> On 23/04/16 16:38, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
> Marx & Engels on accelerationism in 1848:
>
> "The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly
revolutionising
> the instruments of production, and thereby the relations
of
> production, and with them the whole relations of
society.
> Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered
form,
> was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence
for all
> earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionising of
> production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social
conditions,
> everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the
bourgeois
> epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen
relations,
> with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and
> opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become
antiquated
> before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into
air, all
> that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled
to face
> with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his
relations
> with his kind."
>
> This does the *descriptive* job as well as anything
written
> since and it still stands perfectly well...
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
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