Alan: But isn't that the whole idea behind left-acceleration?

On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 9:46 AM Alan Sondheim <sondh...@panix.com> wrote:

>
> I agree and the problem precisely is acceleration; the biosphere doesn't
> adapt well to accelerated change, as the plights of sealions, walrus,
> migrant birds, ocean lives, indicate. If anything, a form of holding-back,
> learning to listen, listening, is necessary. The fundamental problem I
> think is that we're blind when it comes to ecosystems, energy, micro-
> biomes, and so forth. The fundamentals of mycology are being rewritten as
> we discuss, and what's emerging are whole universes of ignorance.
> Meanwhile we plow ahead, destroying the planet. It seems to me that
> accelerationism is so fundamentally human-based (perhaps man-based for all
> that), that it really overlooks collateral damage. And what do we do, for
> example, with the increasingly violent drought in the Mid-East which is
> exacerbating warfares and genocides? This needs slow, dirty work to deal
> with it, culture theory which listens, not only to humans, but to life and
> lives everywhere -
>
> Alan
>
>
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2016, ruth catlow wrote:
>
> > Yes Michael, and this is profoundly poetic.
> >
> > All human traditions, values and communities are dissolved in an acid
> bath
> > of everlasting agitation and uncertainty.
> >
> > What this passage does not describe though is a situation where the wider
> > ecologies of non-human planetary life, upon which we depend, are also
> > fatally eroded.
> > We need to sense and engage not just the real relations with "our kind"
> > (expanded to engage people and perspectives of all kinds (YES Gretta!)),
> but
> > beyond, with other species, and materials.
> >
> > This must include a correction to systems of dominance - to which Simon
> > points with his example of improper use of neuro-science to validate the
> > 'use' of humans.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 23/04/16 16:38, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
> >       Marx & Engels on accelerationism in 1848:
> >
> >       "The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising
> >       the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of
> >       production, and with them the whole relations of society.
> >       Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form,
> >       was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all
> >       earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionising of
> >       production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions,
> >       everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois
> >       epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations,
> >       with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and
> >       opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated
> >       before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all
> >       that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face
> >       with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations
> >       with his kind."
> >
> >          This does the *descriptive* job as well as anything written
> >       since and it still stands perfectly well...
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
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