Hi Pall,
Here's the crux of the problem:" whilst we cannot predict the precise result of our actions, we can determine probabilistically likely ranges of outcomes. What must be coupled to such complex systems analysis is a new form of action: improvisatory and capable of executing a design through a practice which works with the contingencies it discovers only in the course of its acting, in a politics of geosocial artistry and cunning rationality. A form of abductive experimentation that seeks the best means to act in a complex world."
-- but "precise" is what is needed. Note: with fungi, almost all of them are still unknown, unclassified - yet the 'woodnet' of forests which relies on them for carbon etc. transport - is absolutely critical. the instrumentality described here won't do, either will "cunning rationality" - what's absolutely necessary is a form of declerationism if you will, again, one that _listens_ environmentally. as you know, even deforestation is increasing rapidly, 'bushmeat' has critically endangerd almost every primate on the planet except ourselves (so far); something slow is necessary to understand and combat these things. when I read acc. texts - and this is surely my own shortcoming here - I don't find listening; I find rhetorical responses.
How do you deal with "geosocial artistry" without understand ocean currents and the carbon cycle? This is the problem. The world is speaking to us, in a sense (sorry for the poetics), and we're just speaking _back._
- Alan On Sun, 24 Apr 2016, Pall Thayer wrote:
From Manifesto for an Accelerationist Politics(http://criticallegalthinking.com/2013/05/14/accelerate-manifesto-for-an-ac celerationist-politics/): "21. We declare that only a Promethean politics of maximal mastery over society and its environment is capable of either dealing with global problems or achieving victory over capital. This mastery must be distinguished from that beloved of thinkers of the original Enlightenment. The clockwork universe of Laplace, so easily mastered given sufficient information, is long gone from the agenda of serious scientific understanding. But this is not to align ourselves with the tired residue of postmodernity, decrying mastery as proto-fascistic or authority as innately illegitimate. Instead we propose that the problems besetting our planet and our species oblige us to refurbish mastery in a newly complex guise; whilst we cannot predict the precise result of our actions, we can determine probabilistically likely ranges of outcomes. What must be coupled to such complex systems analysis is a new form of action: improvisatory and capable of executing a design through a practice which works with the contingencies it discovers only in the course of its acting, in a politics of geosocial artistry and cunning rationality. A form of abductive experimentation that seeks the best means to act in a complex world." On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 1:22 PM Alan Sondheim <sondh...@panix.com> wrote: Can you say more? On Sun, 24 Apr 2016, Pall Thayer wrote: > Alan: But isn't that the whole idea behind left-acceleration? > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 9:46 AM Alan Sondheim <sondh...@panix.com> wrote: > > I agree and the problem precisely is acceleration; the biosphere > doesn't > adapt well to accelerated change, as the plights of sealions, > walrus, > migrant birds, ocean lives, indicate. If anything, a form of > holding-back, > learning to listen, listening, is necessary. The fundamental > problem I > think is that we're blind when it comes to ecosystems, energy, > micro- > biomes, and so forth. The fundamentals of mycology are being > rewritten as > we discuss, and what's emerging are whole universes of > ignorance. > Meanwhile we plow ahead, destroying the planet. It seems to me > that > accelerationism is so fundamentally human-based (perhaps > man-based for all > that), that it really overlooks collateral damage. And what do > we do, for > example, with the increasingly violent drought in the Mid-East > which is > exacerbating warfares and genocides? This needs slow, dirty work > to deal > with it, culture theory which listens, not only to humans, but > to life and > lives everywhere - > > Alan > > > On Sun, 24 Apr 2016, ruth catlow wrote: > > > Yes Michael, and this is profoundly poetic. > > > > All human traditions, values and communities are dissolved in > an acid bath > > of everlasting agitation and uncertainty. > > > > What this passage does not describe though is a situation > where the wider > > ecologies of non-human planetary life, upon which we depend, > are also > > fatally eroded. > > We need to sense and engage not just the real relations with > "our kind" > > (expanded to engage people and perspectives of all kinds (YES > Gretta!)), but > > beyond, with other species, and materials. > > > > This must include a correction to systems of dominance - to > which Simon > > points with his example of improper use of neuro-science to > validate the > > 'use' of humans. > > > > > > > > > > On 23/04/16 16:38, Michael Szpakowski wrote: > > Marx & Engels on accelerationism in 1848: > > > > "The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly > revolutionising > > the instruments of production, and thereby the relations > of > > production, and with them the whole relations of > society. > > Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered > form, > > was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence > for all > > earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionising of > > production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social > conditions, > > everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the > bourgeois > > epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen > relations, > > with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and > > opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become > antiquated > > before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into > air, all > > that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled > to face > > with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his > relations > > with his kind." > > > > This does the *descriptive* job as well as anything > written > > since and it still stands perfectly well... > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NetBehaviour mailing list > > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > > > > > > -- > > Co-founder Co-director > > Furtherfield > > > > www.furtherfield.org > > > > +44 (0) 77370 02879 > > Meeting calendar - http://bit.ly/1NgeLce > > Bitcoin Address 197BBaXa6M9PtHhhNTQkuHh1pVJA8RrJ2i > > > > Furtherfield is the UK's leading organisation for art shows, > labs, & debates > > around critical questions in art and technology, since 1997 > > > > Furtherfield is a Not-for-Profit Company limited by Guarantee > > registered in England and Wales under the Company No.7005205. > > Registered business address: Ballard Newman, Apex House, Grand > Arcade, Tally > > Ho Corner, London N12 0EH. > > > > > > == > email archive http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ > web http://www.alansondheim.org / cell 718-813-3285 > music: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ > current text http://www.alansondheim.org/tx.txt > ==_______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > -- > P Thayer, Artist > http://pallthayer.dyndns.org > > == email archive http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ web http://www.alansondheim.org / cell 718-813-3285 music: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ current text http://www.alansondheim.org/tx.txt ==_______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- P Thayer, Artist http://pallthayer.dyndns.org
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