I love the conversation inside Android! I can imagine plays written like
this, it would be an interesting genre. I'm on Win10 however and it may be
a bit different.
On Fb I'm not that worried; what occurs on the surface is pretty much what
I see (I've set so many precautions across the browser and in Fb),
although I don't take that for granted.
The sandboxing's there; what still worries me is that even if I were on
Android, that's not what the declamation says; it's not about permitted
agency, but about full agency. I wonder about the legal ramifications of
this - if there are any.
By thoughtfulness, I mean among other things, long duree, reading, say,
Badiou or Zalamea instead of Wired. That takes time, repetition, the
ability to return, to move slowly. The universe is difficult, Fb, at least
for me, for example, isn't. An email list allows for return - on empyre
when we had the discussion on anguish, we could return to earlier posts,
and some of the posts were extremely lengthy, not including links. So a
discourse in depth developed. I haven't had that in chat; when I do use
chat or try to use chat that way, I end up cutting and pasting.
I'm on Pinterest and may be missing something, but I don't see the depth
there as well. (For example, I'm reading a book, The Evidence for the Top
Quark, and I can't imagine how this might be discussed anywhere except on
an email list or dedicated blog; the complexity of the world appears
everywhere in the text. But again, I may be missing something, and I do
have to run at times to Wikipedia for particle physics information.)
Thanks!
- Alan
On Wed, 31 Aug 2016, BishopZ wrote:
The issues of privacy are different depending if you are talking about the
NSA, Facebook or Wikileaks. It is difficult to be pro-privacy in all three
discussions.
In terms of Facebook or Snapchat privacy, as James pointed out, be careful
when simply reading the words.
On Android, there are more internal regulation of your privacy than you
could imagine. I hear the IOS has even more.
For instance, in the case of
"Photos/Media/Files
read the contents of your USB storage
modify or delete the contents of your USB storage"
That sounds outrageous to me.
But this is how the conversation goes inside of the Android OS.
Alan: Hi Snapchat!
Snapchat: Hi, can I have permission to access your photos.
Alan: Sure.
...
Snapchat: Alan, you have created a photo, Do you want to save it?
Alan: Yes!
Snapchat: Android, Alan would like to save a photo he made in my app.
Android: I see that you have permission to do that, Where is the photo?
Snapchat: Here you go.
Android: Ok, I saved it.
...
Snapchat: Alan, what photo would you like to use.
Alan: The photo I want in is my Photos app.
Snapchat: Android, Alan would like to select a photo from Photos.
Android: I see that Alan has said you can do that.
Snapchat: Okay, here is Alan.
(Android then shows you the files in your Photos, not Snapchat.)
Alan: I want this one.
Android: Snapchat, here is the photo they selected.
Snapchat: thanks!
Internally this stuff is heavily sandboxed.
I know hackers can still get around it, but that is the NSA conversation
about privacy, not the Facebook conversation. I get a little tired of people
saying that all online social networks are as bad as the NSA.
To Alan's point about the loss of "thoughtfulness" in social media. I have
mentioned on this list many times. Love it or hate it, Pinterest is another
example of "thoughtfulness" in social media.
That said, nearly every company I have worked for has replaced email with
chat. You might be overestimating how thoughtful the average email user
really was. Chat is better for most people.
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Alan Sondheim <[email protected]> wrote:
at least disorienting and different, and for everyone; the
question is, what do we do about it? in the US, the potential
hacking of the national election in November is frightening...
alan
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016, John Hopkins wrote:
We are really witnessing a shifting of mediated
communications. As we age, protocols change and
generations split along those differing protocol
lines. the fabric of the social system continues to
fray... interiority is being exhumed for profit...
thoughtfulness subsumed by profiteering...
disorienting & sad...
email lists, which still seem on the
wane, seem to be the only online forum
for
extended discussion and a kind of 'care'
in reading that's almost impossible
elsewhere. that's why empyre, for
example, works so well. there's a kind
of
reading-voice and interiority that
allows for thoughtfulness, listening...
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grounded on a granite batholith
twitter: @neoscenes
http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/
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