(Thanx a lot for replying.)
Exactly what I mean. I find that there are many files
like the .sdo and the .spg files. They don't look
"convenient" to create from scratch. In another post
by Peter Cheung, he seems to empathise my problem.
Example, how do u generate the unique ID number that u
mentioned below ?
When I said "bypassing the Studio", I didn't mean just
bypassing the editor and using my own editor. I mean
if I didn't install Studio at all, would an average
programmer be able to use, say vi, to type out all the
files (.spg, .java etc) and then do whatever is needed
(eg. maybe generate the unique IDs for each object
using some utility) to develop the entire application
?
It seems to me that the Studio does quite a few things
that are "hidden" from me. Also, it seems like a
rather complicated (overkill ??) architecture. Even a
simple, static html page requires creation of a java
object (in the Customer Search example).
This is just the 2-cents-worth of a ND newbie. So any
ND supporter, pls don't flame me although opinions are
most welcomed.
TIA
WK
--- Curt Springer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> If you look at the directory containing any of the
> sample apps, you will
> see that there are properties files, with extensions
> such as .sdo for data
> objects, .spg for pages, etc. These are the files
> that you create and
> maintain in the Studio.
>
> If you open one up in a text editor, you will see
> that they are all in a
> simple hierarchical format. You will also see that
> each object has a
> unique ID number and that the properties file for
> one object contains a
> reference to another object (e.g. a data object has
> a reference to a data
> source) by carrying its id number as a property.
>
> There are some ND customers who have essentially
> built their own IDEs, and
> never use the Studio. Others use the Studio to
> create the properties
> files, and then do some operations directly on the
> properties files,
> especially for global changes, instead of clicking
> on each object in turn
> in the Studio and applying the same change. Others,
> myself included,
> produce relatively simple application objects in the
> Studio, and put a lot
> of functionality into custom java 'superclasses',
> i.e., classes that extend
> the basic ND classes (such as CSpPage) and are the
> parents of the
> Studio-produced application objects (i.e. an
> individual page in a project).
>
> -- Curt Springer, Team ND
>
>
>
> At 02:28 PM 5/14/99 +0800, Lee Wee King wrote:
> >Hi all,
> > I just started exploring ND . Could someone
> tell me if it's possible
> >to not use the Studio at all ? i.e. I wish to use
> my own editor to type
> >out the html and java files, do my own java
> compilation, manually copy
> >the class files to the right directory and whatever
> needs to be done to
> >get my app running.
> >
> > I have expeienced other app servers like Oracle
> and Netscape, and
> >both allow me to do this. But I find that
> developing for ND is very much
> >tied to the Studio. Either that or I don't
> understand the architecture
> >well enough at this point in time (not much said
> about this in the
> >docs).
> >
> > Could someone point me in the right direction ?
> >
> >Thanx a lot...
> >
> >Wee King
> >
> >
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