On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 05:17:11PM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to open another issue for YANG 1.1,
> > because I don't want to have 1.1 and then 1.2 right away.
> > The NETMOD WG should evaluate the different ways to
> > support ephemeral state, based on Jeff's draft.
> >
>
> The NETMOD WG did spent almost a full day face-to-face interim meeting
> time in September 2014 on this and now we have a requirements I-D plus
> a solution proposal that does not directly match what was discussed
> back then. It is my understanding that the solution discussed in
> September 2014 does not require changes to YANG 1.1.
>
> I2RS was aware of the YANG 1.1 timeline from the very beginning. YANG
> 1.1 is gating other specifications and I am not interested to hold
> everything off (including RESTCONF) because of I2RS. There are many
> other customers of YANG 1.1 beyond I2RS.
>
>

Yeah, it's too bad so many drafts are waiting on YANG.
Support for I2RS got started but never finished.
I care more about the costs of deploying tools and the extra complexity
on readers, who need to know all the versions of YANG.
The proposed solution changes one of the most important statments
in YANG.  Harding something to do as an afterthought.

It should not take that long because the NETCONF WG (same people)
have been spending almost all f2f and virtual interim time on I2RS.
The YANG doctors concluded that ephemeral state
was a general feature and not NETCONF specific.

The problem with using YANG extensions for important protocol features
is that the YANG spec says these statements MAY be completely skipped
by a tool implementation.  This is not acceptable for ephemeral state
(or operational state either).


/js
>
>

Andy


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