-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 13/05/13 22:42, Ricardo Lanziano wrote: > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Yussi <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Now, there are two concepts which we need to clarify, with some > similar aspects, namely a mesh vs. darknet. > > A mesh network connects clients by "chaining" them in order from > source to destination, a wireless mesh does that over the > wireless. > > suppose you have a fairly large mesh, and you run a service (a > website say) which is only accessible to people on that mesh > network, this is a local network service, it's also in a sense a > darknet, if you employ high encryption and VPN like routing in the > mesh level, it's a darknet proper. infact that's exactly how i2p > works (worked), each client holds a few VPNs, and services were > encrypted on each hop (hop pair really). > > > Actually, a darknet (and specially I2P) does not work like that: > http://pastebin.com/gWzFwBiw I've seen this post ages ago, and it says exactly what i just did, but let's not get hanged up semantics here :) http://www.i2p2.de/how_intro
> > I2P, Tor, Freenet, all work as a darknet in the sense they provide > strong cryptography to ensure high anonymity and censorship > resistance. > > CJDNS, OSLR, Batman, etc, they work by defining the best paths for > creating routes in a lower level. cjdns/i2p does this by using tunnelling, Batman OSLR do this on the ethernet level. > > Netsukuku is somewhere in-between. > yep > Obviously I'm oversimplificating things, but my point is that > Netsukuku is unique. > > Throwing up the old C code was a bad idea IMO, the python port > never lifted up and development stalled. I don't know what happened > to the original developers (Alpt, etc) but the only person that was > working on was Luca. He did get busy aswell and development of the > Vala port stalled. I agree, this is exactly the sort of thing you want to do in c/c++. No one says we can't use the c code any more though. A protocol is a protocol, the more implementations there are the better, but the base one ideally should be in c and capable of being compiled on embedded devices/arm. There is some argument for why small parts of the more complex logic can be done in vala, but even then it's definitely a c project. > > I'd like to know if Alpt is around. Hopefuly we can get a roadmap > started? Fuck it what the hell, let's kick this up a notch, who wants to set up a swarm/node? let's do this thing! The c implementation still exists somewhere on the open-wrt repositories, let's have a few people running the vala and a few running the old c and try and get them to talk. I might even have somewhere a wrt flushed image with c-ntk and a deb image with vala-ntk for running in a vm and some routing games/scripts on it using brctl. I'll start in 3 weeks. whose up for it? p.s. Luca are you still on here? > > -- Ricardo Lanziano To iterate is human, to recurse, divine. > > > _______________________________________________ Netsukuku mailing > list [email protected] > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/netsukuku -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRkYO5AAoJELGGH8ff/6zfvI4IALfp48C0/SqiAcjT00KMFaGG AcBYQNTzdAWhdF7RKYfmEO0nvGmzHhQp9HF3mPKhYmoswrqHBYDHgkWSypforfLV c1f3406i+G+4v3vhizVe6TN0kvGB2Zw0xXEzT93oDcU0cIl3OEMcXTFL+X2UpoVu ly22dppGzR0F+UxmhQvjvQmtdVL+W9hQ7bfwBPjBhpV8DekSsHPxtdAYy6udvfNY +TreB3NEqHYVKDDeFX0idrAYPh/X4xs06GkpCyABuNiHMN+X6qhI4v4sh4qeTWyr io7bZJpib4e6qwmpmvjZeeGh2uangEF2gLhVs2DzcW1Wa86VCuYE3CnWSwLp1tw= =NZN2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Netsukuku mailing list [email protected] https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/netsukuku
