OK,
basically, if you can figure out how to install debian and ntk in a
virtual machine, do it. that's a good start(I mean it).

any errors/solutions to installing  ntk go to google then here.


On 15/05/13 02:43, Valeska Grim wrote:
> yay!! :DD I wonder how hard it would be to learn developer skills?
> I'm willing to try.
> 
> 
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> 
*From:* hawkiye <[email protected]>
> *To:* Netsukuku discussion list <[email protected]> *Sent:*
> Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:12:53 PM *Subject:* Re: [Netsukuku]
> Internet lock down moving forward?...
> 
> So glad to see this starting to move forward! They really are
> working at locking down the Internet, this is another freedom
> technology that will render these control freaks insignificant.
> Wish I had the developer skills to help out but can only offer
> moral support and encouragement and my heart felt thanks to those
> who do have the skills and are stepping up! If there is anything
> else I can do to help I will.
> 
> On 05/14/2013 09:09 AM, Yussi wrote:
>> If you can't flush the router for now don't worry about it.
>> 
>> What i did is (This is from memory I’m afraid, some of it I may
>> have done differently):
>> 
>> set up a vm running debian, set another one running debian,
>> 
>> installed ntk, (whichever flavour you want) on both vms,
>> 
>> used some tuntap and mkbridge magic to route two machines on 
>> 192.168.2.1/24 (A different subnet then my 192.168.1.1/24 home
>> network)
>> 
>> start the vms with some network interface parameters (I guess
>> the tun0,tun1 or something)
>> 
>> watch a lot of weird traffic in between them.
>> 
>> and that's how far i got it to work +- a few games with routes.
>> 
>> after that we'll need to set up a few more complex bridges
>> trickery on the 10.0.0.0 range or even... on ipv6...
>> 
>> After a few people have done that, setup up more tunnels to
>> other swarms/nodes.
>> 
>> then, figure out what it does and does not do correctly, how the
>> hell do we put up services inside it, while also trying to see
>> what works or does not in between swarms of different version
>> (c/py/vala)
>> 
>> I have no idea where to even begin doing any of this in anything
>> other then linux so I’ll leave that to you to sort out.
>> 
>> On a router, I managed to, once a long time ago,build and run a
>> node with pyntk, it involved some weird build of python
>> (stackless).
>> 
>> if iirc the c version was easier to install on wrt,
>> 
>> for the vala, you need some libraries, and make sure you have an 
>> actually up to date vala,
>> 
>> You need to post on the list what you have done, how you have
>> done it, and find people to connect to with this, you will
>> eventually need a wireless router, or 10.
>> 
>> once we have that, we can start opening the routers in public
>> places (Using another managed interface) with a default page
>> explaining how to set it up and what it is, and offer good enough
>> services for people to bother (such as shared/free internet 
>> connection).
>> 
>> I think that's about it.
>> 
>> On 14/05/13 04:03, Valeska Grim wrote:
>>> Okay! What do I need to do to get ready myself? If we are going
>>> to test routers, I'd need to set up OpenWRT on one of mine yes?
>>> I don't know if mine are supported, I didn't see them on the
>>> list. Though, Last I checked was 2012, I'm a bit uneasy about
>>> testing with my uverse router, But, I don't care at all about
>>> the Apple Airport, And the 2wire router. If nothing else, I can
>>> still use all of my other hardware.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>>
>>
>>> 
*From:* Yussi <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> *To:* Valeska Grim <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>>; Netsukuku discussion
>>> list <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2013
>>> 6:44:57 PM *Subject:* Re: [Netsukuku] Internet lock down
>>> moving forward?...
>>> 
>>> I've got a raspberry / a few flushable routers, one or two of
>>> those is already running wrt, some are missing electricity
>>> cable,
>>> 
>>> I've got a duel core something or other which can just about
>>> run a few kvms. This machine already has a few darknets
>>> configured.
>>> 
>>> I have everything i need to start, except time. give me a few
>>> weeks and i'm back here.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 14/05/13 02:08, Valeska Grim wrote:
>>>> As I said before, I wanna help in any way possible. I'll list
>>>> my hard ware, Okay, I have an HP dv9000, I have a 2007 13
>>>> inch Macbook, I have a Dell Inspiron 1000, Though, It doesn't
>>>> power on. It is probably the battery, I have a 2004 HP
>>>> Desktop, It has a 3 Ghz CPU, It doesn't have a wifi card
>>>> though. I have my current Desktop, Which has a wifi card, It
>>>> is an Asus PCE-N10, I have an AT&T 2wire router,  Not in use,
>>>> I have an Apple Airport router, Not in use, And an AT&T
>>>> Uverse router, In use. I do have additional hard ware, But, I
>>>> doubt it would be of use. I have a PS2, I don't have the
>>>> display cables though. I have a PS3, I have a Wii, I have a
>>>> gamecube, I have an iPhone first or second generation, It is
>>>> jailbroken. It, Also, Has a SIM card in it. I have another
>>>> iPhone as well, But, It doesn't go beyond the lock screen, It
>>>> asks for a SIM card. I have an iPod 4G, Also jailbroken, I
>>>> have two basic phones. I don't remember the first, The second
>>>> is a samsung intensity. And I have an HTC One X, I don't know
>>>> if openwrt works on any of these routers. I'll do what ever
>>>> need be to help netsukuku! I am really happy so many people 
>>>> are responding.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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