On 26/05/13 01:23, Valeska Grim wrote: > Well, I've been on Tor, It has a lot of pedophiles, But, They are > generally shunned and live in secluded areas. And there are very few > nazis, Mostly just kinda mean people. I've seen a lot of pedos on I2P as > well, And I'm pretty sure tor has all of those things, Or am I wrong?
I can't vouch that they aren't on I2P, but at least they aren't advertising themselves on the hidden wiki, as for Nazis, there are loads and loads on TOR. It provides for very interesting, very disturbing reading. There are all sorts of paranoids on tor (A group i identify with to a certain level), I2P on the other hand has a lot more technical people and forums (mostly in German :) ). I have nothing against TOR, it's a very good proxy, it has much more hidden services than I2P, but I2P is a much better darknet design. > Wait, If your raspberry Pi is connected to the router, It has internet > access yeah? So we can just connect yeah? Okay, But, What's wrong with > the IP address changing? Although, There are ways to get a Static IP for > free, I've seen some, We should do some research on that. The problem with this, is that I can give you my IP and you can open a tunnel to it, but this will only exist until my ISP assigns me a new IP. > By "Netsukuku > forum" I literally meant a Netsukuku website, As literally a website on > Netsukuku. I don't see how netsukuku is a router, And I don't see the > difference between a web app and a GTK, They seem pretty identical to > me. Except, I have to turn on firefox to use one and not the other. > Alright, So, Let's do as much testing as possible to see everything that > needs to be done then! OK, than let's set up an SMF forum or something on Netsukuku.org, Who is in charge of that website anyway? is it Jaromil? Netsukuku is a router software in that it does routing, it's also a service we'd like to run on routers. If you really want to write a GTK app go for it, as long as ntk can be built without it, otherwise we won't be able to build it for Openwrt. If you do this, I will eventually write the web interface (also separately than the main ntk project as we still want to keep a minimal build of ntk). > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Yussi <[email protected]> > *To:* Valeska Grim <[email protected]>; Netsukuku discussion list > <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, May 25, 2013 6:04:32 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Netsukuku] Some first node > > On 25/05/13 13:26, Valeska Grim wrote: >> tell me why you love I2P so much? > It's a really sweet design, it hides connections, it has several layers > (3 i think) of encryption, and it has noise mechanism, it allows for > anonymous file sharing,tunnels etc. it's a sweet darknet. and unlike TOR > it's not full of pedophiles and nazis. > > Hmm, Can't you just hook up your >> raspberry pi to your router? > It is connected to the router. > > You could connect it to a Desktop or laptop >> and share your internet connection to it as well. Also, Why does your IP >> address change so much if you don't mind saying? > That's to do with my ISP, it assigns me a new IP every once in a while. > chances are yours does the same. > > Yeah, I think that kind >> of thing is good enough. But, The first person who tries to set up >> netsukuku, And learns all these things, And goes through all the stuff >> of setting it up, Is going to have to go through all of these even more >> complicated things. And all of that, For no real gain, Because, We have >> yet to set anything up on netsukuku. So, At the very least, We should >> create a script to run all of these commands, And we should make one to >> install netsukuku, Or package it or something. > Packaging is trivial (In theory), Figuring out how to set up services, > and how andns works will be very nice... > > My friend and I are also >> working on that. We should start doing some more extensive network >> testing. Like, Registering domains, Hosting a website, Other nodes >> accessing it. > If i understand it right, there's no real domain registration as such, > your domain is determined by which group node you belong to, it's > andns's job to figure out which route to take, if your group changes, so > does your domain qualifier, the address is different depending on > whether you connect from 2 group nodes away or 100. Am I correct? > > Maybe we could even get the very first Netsukuku Forum up? > We could, but for now the subreddit serves the same purpose. One of our > biggest problems is that we're all over the place, with unfinished pages > and wikis scattered across multiple places already, it's already > confusing to find what you're looking for. > >> This would be really exciting, And at the very least, It would be >> something real. Also, If possible, We could set up a netsukuku portal, >> Or proxy. Which non-netsukuku people could use to surf netsukuku to some >> extent. Like, Tor2Web so people could explore without taking the plunge >> of installing so much. > Yes. I think this is done by igs, check out Lucas blog on how to set > this up. > http://pyntk.blogspot.co.uk/ > it's the python port, but in principle it should be the same. > > And it would be cross platform. This is, Of >> course, A quick fix, But, Even once netsukuku is ported with a GUI and >> everything. > Netsukuku, in it's heart is a router, as such, GUI should implemented as > a "web app", not a GTK/QT type application. It's pretty simple > requirements, which interfaces to use, which log level, which group you > belong to, which border nodes you know etc. > > It would be still nice to try before you buy so to speak. >> And we should advertise that as such, Also, We should advertise this >> mailing list more. Like on the netsukuku website, And we really should >> recruit some more willing devs who can contribute code. >> > I agree, but at the moment, we don't have a network to advertise yet. > > I am a dev, Luca is The Dev there are devs on this list, more is better, > but right now, we only really tested it on local networks, and only Luca > actually relies on it for his home network. There is a lot of work to be > done still. most of all, to figure out what work is needed. > > Actually, someone asked me to try and install it on zeroshell, which is > another router linux distro. I will try this out soon. > > _______________________________________________ Netsukuku mailing list [email protected] https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/netsukuku
