On Wednesday 17 November 2010 22:11:49 Pranesh Prakash wrote: > On Tuesday 16 November 2010 07:45 PM, jtd wrote: > > Agreed, but my statement was not about security, but to point out > > that the version shipped is merely to hook unaware users with a > > crippled version, even though a fully functional version is > > shipped with the machine. > > Thanks. Sorry, I had misunderstood your point. Could you please > > elaborate on: > > All we have to prove is that MOST systems > > are not available without OS and very many are installed with a > > crippled edition (Windows Vista Home Edition). > > How exactly is WVHE a "crippled edition"?
WVHE has all the components of a full system already installed. Which means that it is occupying your computers disk, memory and chewing cpu cycles, without providing you full network capability (afaik restricted to 4 machines). You then download a key and the system becomes a WVPE. So the system is deliberately hobbled so that it can be supplied at a low price without attracting a predatory pricing charge. > > I am sure that none of the machines listed specifically as "Dos" > > or Ubuntu are available either without OS or with some linux. > > Someone will have to confirm that though. One will have to be a > > little careful while making a statement, as some small parts of > > some machines do not work with linux, unless one tweaks > > somethings eg. 3D accel or wireless. > > I recently bought a Thinkpad which listed "PC DOS 2000" as the OS, > and it came without an OS (AFAICT, since the DOS command prompt > didn't show up). > Ok. > > Essentially linux option is available only on machines with > > substantially lower performance, even though any distro will run > > far better than doze. > > Not sure how one could make that claim, since it is quite possible > that wireless drivers, etc., don't work out-of-the-box with a Linux > distro while working on Windows. (I would know since I am facing > that problem right now, with a kernel update that's supposed to > help apparently not helping many people.) Again we will have to get specific. Several machines which work with everything, are not offered OS free. The doze box will have a higher cpu, ram and disk capability, all of which work out of the box. The ploy is to pretend that linux machines are inferior hence cheaper to the doze boxes. I must state I am speaking in very generic terms and someone will have to spend time with every manufacturers website (and call center) to get the evidence organised. I have done these exercises several times in the past and I am 100% convinced of M$ dirty games in trying to keep it's pricing and tieups under the radar. -- Rgds JTD _______________________________________________ network mailing list [email protected] http://lists.fosscom.in/listinfo.cgi/network-fosscom.in
