On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Correct :-)

;)

Actually, dladm has two separate notions of bge0 -- one at the device layer, and one at the link layer. After Clearview's Vanity Naming is introduced, the device layer (show-phys) will remain "bge0" but the link layer (show-link) will show whatever name the adminstrator has chosen, or bge0 by default. Note that if the administrator names an interface "maint0", then that means they will still have /dev/bge0, but will also have /dev/net/maint0 (/dev/net is where Clearview proposes to put the vanity names for network devices).

Seems reasonable.

That's one way to think about it -- but really, it represents whatever has been plumbed as an IP interface. Since the IP interface name is derived from the link-layer name (when one exists), aforementioned vanity naming will allow the administrator to have vanity names at this layer.

Ok.

> - When you plumb/unplumb bge0:n, it generally means just /that/ IP
>    interface only
>    (/dev/ipnet/bge0:n, notionally at least)

Right, it is a logical interface -- strictly an IP-layer concept that is
basically a shell around an IP address.

Yeah. Now, I know this has /nothing/ to do with what's on Clearviews' table at the moment, but I wish the above weren't so. E.g. it leads chicken/egg problems with dynamic addressing (NWAM, assigning one interface based on the prefix of another (DHCPv6/IPv6 RA interaction)), doesn't it?

> - Except for the special 0th logical interface 'bge0:0', which is also
>    'bge0' - which will unplumb /all/ IP addresses (just as if it were
>    referring notionally to the physical interface 'bge0').

Right.

Isn't this ever so /slightly/ at odds with the previous? :)

Anyway, not $SUBJECT - forgive me.

Well, you could view IPMP as a special-case today, as it fuses together one or more IP interfaces (but the representation will be changing as part of the Clearview IPMP Rearchitecture). I've got a document that describes all of this stuff in a bit more detail, but it's not yet ready for consumption.

Look forward to it!

regards,
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Paul Jakma,
Network Approachability, KISS.          http://quagga.ireland.sun.com/
Sun Microsystems, Dublin, Ireland.      tel: EMEA x19190 / +353 1 819 9190
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