On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 02:21:08PM -0800, Darren Reed wrote:
> Nicolas Williams wrote:
> >On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 01:11:17PM -0800, Darren Reed wrote:
> >>James Carlson wrote:
> >What's in it for us?  It sounds like a waste of time.
> 
> It satisfies the desire at Sun to no longer do any work on it whilst 
> keeping it available for those that "need it."

Simply not doing any work on it and leaving it as-is, where it is (ONNV)
does the same!  :)

> >OpenSolaris is [mostly] open source, snoop is in the open source part of
> >OpenSolaris.  That should be enough.
> 
> Except that all changes to anything on opensolaris need to come from or 
> go through someone at Sun.

Isn't that a temporary matter?  At some point I'd expect that non-Sun
folks will be able to use WebRTI and do Mercurial pushes to ONNV (not
including usr/closed) just like anyone at Sun, provided they've signed
the contributor agreement.

> >What is the "everything" that we've got to gain by doing this?  Why
> >isn't snoop's presence in ONNV sufficiently "open source"?
> 
> So it is dead but we want to keep it in the source code tree for
> opensolaris.  We don't dare remove it because there are scripts that
> exist that rely on it.  We don't want to add new features to it
> because there are better tools more worthy.  So we're left with
> this... thing... that rots.
> 
> IMHO, the current situation is far sillier than what I'm suggesting.

IMO, if anyone wants to play with snoop and add features, _they_ can do
the work of extracting it from ONNV, making it build outside ONNV
(including without making use of any non-Public interfaces), and putting
it up on Sourceforge/wherever.

Nico
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