James Carlson wrote:
Darren Reed wrote:
James Carlson wrote:
Darren Reed wrote:
How many times have you seen people on the 'web clamour about "why
didn't they open source it if they're going to discontinue it?"?
Sun *DID* open source it -- well over four years ago. No more "open
sourcing" is needed to get snoop out there.
Where can I download snoop.tar.gz
Anyone who wants to can get the source using Mercurial from
hg.opensolaris.org.
Run tar and gzip.
And the directory tree you get won't build anywhere outside of the ON tree.
...
Someone will have to do that work, and it's certainly not trivial.
Or even just to get all of the current decoders, etc, for snoop on
Solaris 8, 9 or 10?
Mercurial, qv.
No, mercurial will give me something that compiles as part of ON.
While it might be "open source'd", because it is all CDDL'd, today it is
part of OpenSolaris. To do any work on it today is thus not attractive
for anyone outside of Sun.
So it seems you're saying that the fact that nobody's tar'd up that one
directory and tossed it on a web server is the reason that there's no
vibrant external snoop development community. It's the one blocking
issue. They can do all the complicated work of getting a DLPI-dependent
program running on a non-DLPI system, but Mercurial is a mystery.
Why does everything need to have a "vibrant development community"?
Statements like that sound like the mutterings of managers and people
who are disconnected with open source.
In other words, you've got the cart before the horse. If there is
indeed someone out there who wants to take the snoop sources and run a
new project on sourceforge with them, then more power to that person.
Good luck with it. You (or anyone else; Sun employee or not) can do
that right _now_ without waiting for any special approval or changes in
ON. The source is free for the taking. Today.
I don't believe that we need two projects maintaining a program called
"snoop". Furthermore, I can't see how anyone would be attracted to work
on something outside of opensolaris when the "official" one is at
opensolaris.
I still think you've got the cart before the horse.
Start that external community of wacky snoop believers first, and, if it
happens, then shutting down the unnecessary one in ON becomes trivial.
If nobody cares -- as it seems to be today -- then it'll never happen.
Well maybe that's not a bad idea - extract snoop from ON, convert it
into something that builds on Solaris 8, 9, 10 and 11 and whack it up on
sourceforge.
...
You can't treat sourceforge (or any other such site) as a virtual India
where out-of-date projects can be sent for death by maintenance. It
won't work.
How do you know that?
Has it been tried before?
If it hasn't, isn't it worth trying out?
As far as I can see, we've got everything to gain and nothing to lose by
trying it.
No. Because it's silly.
Why do you say that?
So far as I can tell, you're making a lot of assumptions about something
that's unknown.
Darren
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