On Monday 08 July 2002 11:55 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-07-08 at 17:38, tom brinkman wrote:
> > On Monday 08 July 2002 03:20 pm, john drouhard wrote:
> > > I need a lot of help. I am very fed up with my aureal card. I
> > > have everything I can think of. I have a vortex 2 (au8830). I
> > > have installed the CVS drivers from Sourceforge, and the
> > > install did not find my aureal card. I had to manually make the
> > > driver as an au8830. It didn't work after I installed these.
> > > When I try to use ALSA, it can't open /dev/dsp becasue of an
> > > invalid argument. I need any help I can get.
> >
> > http://www.mandrakeforum.org/article.php?sid=427&lang=en
> >
> > Save your sanity, try to avoid win-hardware in the future,
> > blame uncle billy for aureal. Look here to find a_real sound
> > card
> >
> > http://www.alsa-project.org/~goemon/
> > --
> > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas
>
> In defense of Aureal, the hardware itself is excellent. In all
> probability Aureal would be supplying Linux drivers right now if
> Creative Labs had not pulled a MicroShaft on them, taking them out
> in court over a lawsuit that had no basis in reality. As a young
> company, Aureal had not developed sufficient resources for an
> extended court battle. To add insult to injury, Creative Labs
> ended up absorbing Aureal's assets after they forced them out of
> business. Now everybody walks around extolling the pluses of
> Creative Labs cards, and most don't have a clue about what dirty
> tricks they pulled to get there. AKA M$.
>
> The Aureal hardware is high quality hardware, and it's no accident
> that Aureal owners are very passionate about their cards. Aureal
> as a company no longer exists in order to defend itself. Further,
> I hate to see someone hung for what they may or may not have done;
> AKA "Minority Report". Aureal was the kind of company that would
> have responded to user requests, if they had not been so busy
> battling Creative Labs in court. That choice was forcibly taken
> from them.
>
> I myself have an Nvidia card, a Via chipset, an HPT370 Raid
> controller, and an Aureal soundcard combo. According to
> "conventional" wisdom I should be totally dead in the water;
> however in my experience what I have encountered have been merely
> configuration issues, and Linux Mandrake has been more than able to
> handle the hardware as long as I correctly told it what to do. Now
> that the hardware curves have been negotiated, I see them as being
> no different from what everybody else has to go through in getting
> accustomed to their hardware's personalities and ideosyncracies;
> that even includes Winblows users -- they have configuration
> problems too. Even WITH native drivers.
>
> Winmodems deserve a special spot in hell; however that category
> does not apply to the superb hardware setup I've got now, or any of
> it's peripherals. They've all got drivers and they all work more
> than satisfactorily. And yes I think companies should be
> encouraged to support Linux more in regard to their peripherals;
> but not at the expense of a witchhunt against perfectly good
> hardware that works, or the intentional disregard of the "minority
> report".
>
> Best Regards,
>
> LX
Well, your welcome to your opinions. The link I posted is Deno's
and Civileme's opinions. Mine are that _any_ hardware that requires
closed source proprietary drivers to function is WIN_hardware. It
can't and never will be supported by Linux, the drivers _will_ taint
your kernel, and possibly (probly) introduce unfixable, untraceable
conflicts and security issues. IOW's, reduce a real OS to the same
quality as those that come out of Redmond. That's the main reason
that linux-kernel (and Linus) routinely ignore any bug reports
involving nVidia drivers, or any win-hardare or closed source
proprietary software (eg, StarOffice) for that matter. There's also
the user risk that their hardware will be orphaned and abandoned, as
is the case with Aureal.
So it's simply a user choice, and not a Linux or Mandrake isssue
to risk using win-hardware and/or introducing closed source binary
programs in any form into their system. Doing so without knowledge
or acceptance of the pitfalls is just plain foolishness. A user
error, and a regression to a Winblows mindset. YMMV
--
Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas
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