On Monday 28 January 2002 16:56, you wrote:
> > > wiped out). Thing is I RTFM.
> >
> > What manual would that be? :-)
>
> man pages of course... the "F" fits man pages *perfectly* ;) if you need a
> man for F itself I guess that's okay when ur subscribed to a linux mailing
> list :D j/k
>
> > > How anybody can just download a distro and get it to work without a
> > > manual is beyound me.
>
> There's a song by Queen - "With a little help from your friends".. I
> actually dloaded and installed Slack 8 with almost no man reading... tho I
> gotta admit I installed a range of SuSEs before (and got rid of them all
> again)
Hehehe, what if you're a nerd and don't have any friends :-) Ah well, there's
always irc.linux.org
> > It's pretty simple actually... If you bought recent hardware and the
> > distro's don't include that hardware yet, you'll have to tweak a lil....
> > If it is in there you shouldn't have any problems. I usually use
> > slackware which has a text based install and has no problems on newer
> > hardware. Then again, for the average new-comer to linux it will be WAY
> > too difficult.
>
> And xfree86.org claiming they'd support Radeon doesn't exactly help it.
>
> > I have no experience with wine... If you are trying to run windows crap
> > on linux you're on the wrong mailing list in the first place.
>
> tell me a prog that can do anything ACDSee can do and I'll dump it.
Dunno ACDSee, if it's a burn proggie... CD recording still ain't it under
linux I'm afraid :/ Hope somebody will write a Nero clone or something. I'll
be learning C soon, if I can find enough spare time I might write one, but I
think it's gonna be very complicated. I also wonder why the existing CD
recording software needs SCSI emulation for IDE drives, I'll have to figure
that one out some time.
> > Dunno, I use tar balls.
>
> btw how do I uninstall a prog that was inst'd from tarball?
yea... that's the hard part.... usually i use
./configure --prefix
usually eprefix will assume prefix thus your libraries will be in
<prefix>/lib in general... this has as disadvantage you have a shitload of
library dirs, as advantage, you don't have to remember which library comes
with what program so you don't have to delete them from /usr/lib or
/usr/local/lib or whatever
anyways, if you use the prefix thing you can usually just delete the
directory and most stuff will be gone ('cept maybe some symlinks et al)
you'll also have to clear up your /etc/ld.so.conf and $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
uninstalling is indeed one of the problems with tar balls, although some
sources support make uninstall, but then you'll have to keep the source
somewhere.
>
> > > If you have to compile as a newbie you are usually dead in the water.
>
> ah c'mon - ./configure, make, make install. whaz da fuzz? if the coder did
> a good job...
>
> > Yea some times you are, however, if you read the manual you usually don't
> > have to do really friggin' things. Mostly I just type (after reading
> > INSTALL) ./configure
> > make
> > make install
> > and that mostly works..... that really ain't that hard :-)
>
> maybe i should start reading the whole mail first
>
> DF
>
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