I find that having a nice large vise to hold it helps. You need a minimum of tools and a maximum of patience. Start with a a clean work-space and if possible, work over an old sheet. Makes parts easy to find. Before you disassemble it, connect the battery directly to the terminal and starter case to see if it works out of the bike. I lay it on the floor and step on it to prevent it moving. Works Y-N ? If yes, stop. Make sure the engine can be turned by removing the chrome cover and turning the crankshaft with a wrench. Whatever you checked for voltage with, if you can check for resistance, see how much there is from the terminal to the case of the starter. Probably an infinite resistance. Can you turn the output shaft ? Y-N ? Now disassemble it. SLOWLY Removing the end cover that holds the brush assemblies can be a surprising moment and a dirty one too. You may see the need for the sheet... Forward pix of parts if possible. Make notes of placement of all thrust washers and other parts. In all likelihood, you'll need brushes and clean-up of the armature. The wear of the armature dictates the extent of clean-up needed.
--- On Tue, 11/18/08, hondaNHlover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: hondaNHlover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hi again! To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:09 PM hi again guys.... it took me a little while but i finally got the "quick test" that Dennis suggested done with a fully charged battery new solenoid installed...results were that i do have exactly 12V at the starter terminal when I press the button. so according to Dennis, i am in for a 'starter rebuild'...so...yep i'm gonna need some help... i got my manual and my tools, all i need is some suggestions as to how to get this done, what am i looking for? ... i'm gonna read my manual and checkout "Dan's Motorcycle Repair" site while i wait for suggestions from my trusty, knowledgeable, fellow group members.... just for starters, i disconnected the solonoid from the battery and the starter....so i guess next thing to do is take the starter out...any thing special that i should know or look for or check for? .... thanks for all your help... -hondaNHlover On Nov 8, 6:53 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The starter won't work with only 5V. Recharge battery and try the starter again. Let's not jump at this job. > ## did you leave the key on or just the handlebar switch ? If the key was off nothing else should matter. When you check for voltage at the starter, use a frame ground and not the battery negative terminal for a second check to verify battery ground to frame. I'm just trying to make sure the ONLY thing wrong is the starter. This is starting to sound more like a cluster. > > --- On Sat, 11/8/08, hondaNHlover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: hondaNHlover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hi again! > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 7:03 PM > > okay, thanks guys....heres an update.... > > email....still not recieving....changed my settings as advised by kyle > to "email" and checked my Yahoo account to try to ensure that emails > from the group aren't getting blocked...it doesn't seem to be, but who > know what they can do that i can't see, right? ...although i did get > the email from Paul sent to the group address AND my personal > address. so what more can i do now...should i unsubscribe and sign up > again...do you think maybe that will help? > > more importantly though, i did the quick test recommended by Dennis, > and here are the results: > > after installing my new solenoid on Friday morning, i stupidly left > the "run" button on, which as everyone including me knows slowly > discharges the battery...so with that said, i tested the battery and > i'm only getting 5V from it....off to the charger with it....but i > also tested the terminal at the starter as instructed by Dennis, and > its getting the same 5V....so i assume that i need to charge the > battery and rebuild the starter....sooooo...where to start...i am > definately going to have to ask for help on this one...how does one > start a 'starter rebuild?... > > ohh, and by the way, i did also test the old solonoid before buying > the new one, and it wasn't any volts to the terminal on the > starter...so it was definately shot..... > > thanks again for all y'alls help.... hope to hear from y'all soon. > > hondaNHlover...................... > > On Nov 8, 1:11 am, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> quick test: do you have 12V at the terminal on the starter when you push > > the button ? Yes: repair starter, No: solenoid is bad. If you had done that > first, you might have saved yourself some bucks to spend elsewhere. Answer this > one and if you need help with a starter rebuild, get back to us. Good luck > > > --- On Fri, 11/7/08, hondaNHlover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: hondaNHlover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hi again! > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" > > <[email protected]> > > > > > Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 12:39 PM > > > Hey Guys!, > > > I'm back...i disappeared for a little while...but i'm back now > with a > > couple of questions: > > > First of all, last week, after being gone for about 2.5 months, i > > stopped receiving daily email updates for this group...does anyone > > know why?...I'm assuming that its because i hadn't posted to the > group > > in a while....and i'm hoping that after this post, i'll start > > receiving them again...but can anyone confirm my suspicians....Paul, > > maybe you know what's up? .... > > > Anyways, before i left so abrubtly, i was having trouble with my > > nighthawks starting system. I followed some advice received here and > > determined that my solonoid was shot...so i finally i got up the $70 > > bucks to purchase a universal soloniod from the local shop....i > > anxiously charged my battery, and connected the new solonoid and hit > > the start button!!!! only to hear the same damn clicking > > noise....so...now here i am with a new solonoid and the same old > > clicking sound....so what's up guys...am i gonna have shell out the > > big bucks for a new starter or is there a way to test it, rebuild it, > > or just get the thing to give me a little sign of hope.... > > > please take into consideration that i am working with very limited > > funding as i am currently unemployed and have be for almost a > > year....i'm rich in time, but destitute in greenbacks if you know what > > i mean....anyway, as always, thanks for all y'alls help...i really do > > appreciated it. > > > hondaNHlover- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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