Again, I think we've got our *lions* crossed here. You're saying exactly what I'm saying. Melted plastic=effect(symptom), wrong bulb=possible cause(problem). And for $65 I would expect them to disassemble the entire bike and "inspect" the whole damn thing! I want to know the composition of the gases in my bulbs for that price!!! I want them to count the tire plies! I want them to run each link of the damn chain under a microscope! 65 Frakkin dollars!!! Highway robbery! Our founding father revolted over less than that!!!
-Kyle -Prone to exaggeration On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Gene Henry <[email protected]> wrote: > Kyle > > Running too hot a bulb would not be a symptom, it would be THE cause. The > symptom/result would be a melted plastic part. Another possibility would be > a perfectly good bulb and socket somehow getting too close the plastic part > (I don't know what it is but I suspect it is the lens, else the inspectors > would not have seen it. I can't believe they took the taillight apart to > inspect it. Well, maybe, for $65!!!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Kyle Munz <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:09 PM > *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Tail light melted > > My choice of words may be misunderstood. My point being that he should find > the cause of the meltdown rather than just replacing the housing and moving > on. If it was simply an oversized bulb then replacing the housing and the > correct bulb will be the proper repair, but that needs to be determined > first. In that case however, the melted socket is still a "symptom" of > running too hot a bulb in that housing, rather than the cause. > > -Kyle > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Gene Henry <[email protected]> wrote: > >> No, not *everyone* agrees that the melted socket is a symptom and not >> the problem. The socket is metal-probably brass-and cannot melt. It is the >> plastic parts around it somewhere that are melted. And that is due to >> heat. Although that could be a wrong/oversize/overcurrent bulb, it is more >> likely to be a bad connection between the socket and the bulb that created a >> high resistance and heat producing point. It could be limited to the bulb, >> which would be eliminated when the bulb was replaced, but I would carefully >> check the socket for a bad contact, and replace it if at all in doubt. >> Automotive supply stores have sockets that would probably work, at least >> temporarily. Be sure there is a grounding method/wire on any improvised >> socket. A short/grounding in the wiring would cause heating at the point of >> the short/grounding, and not at the socket. Heating in the socket/bulb is >> caused by the socket/bulb. >> >> Trust me. The check is in the mail. I will respect and call you >> tomorrow. >> >> Gene >> >> F.Y.I. (None of these definitions are the same nor interchangeable.) >> Short: A "shortened" electrical path that allows >> excess/unintended/undesired current to flow. Sometimes accompanied by >> heat/fireworks/excitement etc. >> Ground: A path that allows current to flow to the ground or common side >> of a circuit. Sometimes deliberate and planned. Sometimes >> unintended/undesired. See "short". As in short to ground. >> Open: For electrical current to do its job, it needs an outgoing path >> from the power source and a return to the same source. Along the way it >> will encounter control devices, switches, etc. and pass through the intended >> use of the power, a light, a motor, the coil of a relay, etc. An open is >> any break in this circuit that prevents the current flow. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:* Kyle Munz <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 21, 2009 6:42 PM >> *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Tail light melted >> >> If the point is just to get the bike inspected as quickly as possible so >> you can register it and then troubleshoot the light later, why not try >> taking it to another shop? As long as it still lights up, medium while the >> bike is running and full bright when you apply either brake, it should pass. >> I'm sure there's a shop somewhere near you that is too busy to look too >> closely at the bike and just wants to see it shine and that's it. I'm not >> suggesting that you don't fix it eventually though, everyone on this list is >> right in saying that the melted socket is the symptom, not the problem. >> >> -Kyle >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Dick... well the light does work, however I haven't check the socket. >>> The guys that did the inspection told me about it. Unfortunately I don't >>> have any tools with me, or a nice place to work on the bike... I'll try to >>> buy at least some screwdrivers to check the tail light for myself. >>> Nevertheless I haven't found a replacement yet. Do you know where can I look >>> for it? >>> Thanks >>> Javier >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Dick MacInnes <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Javier >>>> >>>> Does the bulb work, and does it look like it was in there when the >>>> socket overheated? If so, it could be an earlier bulb shorted and >>>> overheated >>>> the socket, then the previous owner just replaced the bulb. >>>> >>>> Dick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
